I Think I Don't Want These Computers in Cars Anymore

goldduster318 said
Computer controlled vehicles is only basically every car made for the last 35 years, not sure why you'd expect anything different at this point.

I'd still argue there are plenty of them that are really easy to work on if you even have to. I have a Cruze I bought new and I won't try to tell you its a phenominal car (only issues are related to the engine/transmission, the rest of the car has held up well), but man is that thing easy to work on. I changed the intake manifold in 20 minutes (it has an integrated check valve in it that failed), no water, no rtv, no throttle cable, just a 4" extension, the right socket and a ratchet. Most other things are similarly easy. Part was $50 for an OEM. Just did the front wheel bearings and each side took under an hour.

When OBDI came out, the rage was "everything will be standardized across the board". My big old butt. When OBDII came out the rage was "everything will be standardized across the board". We all just laughed. Every automaker has "their own version" of what was supposed to be "standardized" and you need 20K worth of diagnostic tools and adapters and connectors to read everything. Don't give me the "computer cars are easier" bullshit. Keep it to yourself. I was THERE when it all started and all it did was make money for rich politicians and that's all it still does. That and it makes DAMN SURE there'll be clapped out computer cars sitting in a lot of back yards, because either no one can diagnose what's wrong, OR the owners cannot afford to have them fixed.