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You could have paved a 6 lane highway around Pacific Palisades and it would't have made a lick of difference in those winds.
Yes, exactly why my posts previous to the one you cherry picked stated that I recommend everyone get out of the way of a wind driven fire and draw a bigger box.
Half the Cleveland is actual desert,
Don't make me think of you a fool. It is an elfin Forest and has timber (Mt. Laguna, Palomar Mt., Pine Vally, Cuymaca .......).
For those that don't know what an elfin Forest is. Ladder fuels are ladder fuels. Manzanita, Sumac, ...... all susceptible to running crown fires. There is no part of the Cleveland National Forest that is actual desert. The Cleveland is littered with gorilla brush double overhead high, Manzanita, Sumac, Ceonothus conversions from timber (Cedar and Chariot Fires), and multiple Santa Ana prone drainages that run desert to coast.
Study the Cedar fire for just a second. How about Hauser Creek Fire. Inaja Fire ring a bell? Witch Creek Fire (44 !!! firefighters injured with shelter deployments). What did all these STAFF RIDE fires have in common? I'll spare you. Santa Ana fires that ripped through aligned drainages and killed near two dozen firefighters and a lot of public.
Remember, the Cedar Fire was Californias largest wildland fire up until 2017. It's the sixth deadliest, ninth largest and, fourth most destructive fire in California history. Now, 5th because of the Palisades and it barely tops it.
compared the Angeles the exposure to homes is exponentially lower.
Ok. Study the Cedar Fire. exposures are not EXPONENTIALLY lower. They are fewer however that means more wildland/urban interface. The fire is going to drive toward the ocean whether it's L ******* A or the many small communities that make up San Diego County's foot hills leading to the ocean. I would argue that it's more of a chance to have firefighter loss of life in Santa Ana driven fires in wildland/urban interface than the same fire and winds in an Oakland Hills scenario, or a Palisades scenario.
Of the three Cleveland NF fires they have body count of over 36 and 22 of those were firefighters. Tell
them that the Cleveland's east wind don't rip as bad as any other.
You're way short sighted on what I initially said and doubled down with your absurd claims and comparisons of a forest you have surely never fought fire in. Enlighten me with your vast knowledge of my local response area.
I hope we can still be friends but, c'mon. Santa Ana winds don't care. If it's an east/west drainage the fire is going to try like hell to get to the ocean. The San Diego River Drainage is 430 square miles and 52 miles long. It runs from the desert (BLM land!) to San Diego beaches. When conditions are ripe it will rip, anywhere from the LP to the Cleveland.