We have a Shindaiwa that we bought new in 2006 or 2007, don't recall the model # at the moment, but it's been a damn good machine. We bought it when we had a piece of lakefront cottage property that we were intending to develop as a retirement home for ourselves. It was about 2 acres of solid bush and we worked that saw like a rented mule for 2 summers taking down trees as big as 26 inches in diameter with that little 16 inch saw. It has never failed to start or run perfectly, even though I admittedly have not done much maintenance on it. We also have an old Pioneer that my FIL bought in the 1970s. I have not been able to get it running lately, not sure what is wrong with it, haven't really looked that closely at it, but it was a good workhorse when we were clearing the property as well.