Yes, I made the mistake when I was going through my first set of rockers of not making sure that hole was deeper. I just thought at the time I had a new engine and I didn't want any shavings to go in? Or maybe I was just in a rush to get it going. Because I was so excited about it at the time. Yes, you did point out that I could have got those holes deeper. And my studs would have went down deeper, and I wouldn't have had to use washers, but the fact remains dave gave me off the cuff catastrophic advice....