Torsion Bar Upgrade for '65 Barracuda Formula S

Yes, zero arch is factory height, 1” is plus one inch. They were oval track springs, so they were often run staggered because of a banked track.

The front segment is a 1/2” longer, but the overall spring length is the same, you do not run shorter front hangers with them. The wheels move about a 1/2” back, which typically centers them better in the wheel tub.

The spring rate is ~120 lb/in, which makes them stiffer than the original XHD springs (110 lb/in), but softer than the SS springs (160 lb/in). Typically handling cars are set up 120-130 lb/in for the rear springs, so stiffer than most standard factory springs but nowhere near as rough a ride as SS springs.

Front eyelet uses the 5/8 eye bolt, the rear uses a different shackle bushing than factory, I’ll have to look up the part number.

I have AFCO springs on my car that match the Mopar oval track spring specs- 1/2” longer front segment, 121 lb/in rate, zero arch. They discontinued that part # when Mopar started making the oval track springs again. I have a set of the Mopar oval tracks as well, but I haven’t run them. They’re made in Mexico and are not as good of quality as the AFCO’s. But last I checked AFCO still wasn’t making the 121 lb/in springs.

Honestly I wouldn’t mess with the Mopar oval track springs because of their hit and miss quality. I’d call @BergmanAutoCraft, he was having springs made to the 130 lb/in spec.
Thanks, I’m in alberta and shipping and buying in usd is not fun, especially right now. I was looking at the afco unit you were using and noticed the lowest rate they offer now is 141lb -ish? (going from memory). The thing that tempts me about trying the mopar one is I can buy them in cdn dollars jobber through my contacts for a little less than half of what the afco’s list at….

I wonder why AR Engineering (Andy) lusts and sells the ar118 front hanger brackets? I was reading (incorrectly) that the spring was 1/2 longer overall with the extra inch on the front segment, but now I see it is the same length but has the locating pin 1/2’ further back. I guess his hanger would just pull the whole set up back to stock locations. Is it possible the diff gets too close to gas tanks and things or something?

I wish we had better spring selection up here for reasonable pricing like you guys have….