Torsion Bar Upgrade for '65 Barracuda Formula S

Yes, zero arch is factory height, 1” is plus one inch. They were oval track springs, so they were often run staggered because of a banked track.

The front segment is a 1/2” longer, but the overall spring length is the same, you do not run shorter front hangers with them. The wheels move about a 1/2” back, which typically centers them better in the wheel tub.

The spring rate is ~120 lb/in, which makes them stiffer than the original XHD springs (110 lb/in), but softer than the SS springs (160 lb/in). Typically handling cars are set up 120-130 lb/in for the rear springs, so stiffer than most standard factory springs but nowhere near as rough a ride as SS springs.

Front eyelet uses the 5/8 eye bolt, the rear uses a different shackle bushing than factory, I’ll have to look up the part number.

I have AFCO springs on my car that match the Mopar oval track spring specs- 1/2” longer front segment, 121 lb/in rate, zero arch. They discontinued that part # when Mopar started making the oval track springs again. I have a set of the Mopar oval tracks as well, but I haven’t run them. They’re made in Mexico and are not as good of quality as the AFCO’s. But last I checked AFCO still wasn’t making the 121 lb/in springs.

Honestly I wouldn’t mess with the Mopar oval track springs because of their hit and miss quality. I’d call @BergmanAutoCraft, he was having springs made to the 130 lb/in spec.
I think I’m willing to officially try these as they cost me the equivalent of 75 usd on jobber account through my distributor. For the price of them I’m willing to see just how crap they are or hopefully aren’t. I’ll be a 2025 Guinea pig.

There are indeed the same over all length? I’m putting my car down off the jack stands tomorrow and if the wheel is reasonably centred in the opening I’m gonna try them.

I can’t believe people were making a shorter front hanger seeing as the spring is the same overall. Did you measure them yourself?.