mufflers or no mufflers??

OK here is the scoop. My husband has run extensive dyno tests on his dyno using mufflers on his superstocker, my street car, and almost every engine he dynoes. How much the muffler flows means nothing. If you want flow, then take the entire exhaust system off. It is the speed at which the exhaust flows that counts. My car has stock exhaust manifolds, 38" of 2.5" pipe and supertrapp mufflers with 28 discs each. The dyno said that was optimum for my combo. It made more power over open pipes and more power over flowmaster 40 series mufflers. My engine makes power to 5500rpm and is a very mild street engine. The length of the pipe from the manifold to the muffler is a key point that is always forgotten. Your big power loss is not in the exhaust which is always easy to blame much like carbs. and ignitions. My guess is that it is a little bit of everything that is wrong. Also, open exhaust rapps up fast when you hit the throttle, but doesn't under a load. I have heard thousands of drag cars sound like prostockers in the burnout box but are terds off the line:rolleyes:.


Excellent!!!!!!!! I couldn't have said it better.

Flow numbers for mufflers is one of the most useless specs out there. All of the performance mufflers flow more than anything but the biggest IHRA prostock mount motors can flow.

As others have stated it is much more important to have the right size pipes and lengths in front of the motor that what muffler is there.

Some time back I read an SAE paper on designing zero loss exhaust systems, that is the motor will make as much power with a full exhaust as it does with open headers.

The interesting thing I took away from that article was that it is easier to design a zero loss system with a chambered muffler than it is with a straight through absorbtion muffler like a magnaflow or ultra flow. The article stated that with the chambered muffler once the exhaust entered the muffler the rest of the system appeared to the engien as though it wasn't there and the the absorbtion type the rest of the exhaust past the muffler appeared as a restriction.

Great article. I've read a few write ups and a well designed exhaust isn't just a simple set of pipes.

On street cars, the exhaust system is an overated issue were the most power is lost due to poor design and build. (Leaks, poor weld, etc..)