I have a few Honeydos this morning but sometime today I'm going to try it without the flasher, I replaced both flashers last night but I did not try the issue with the flashers out, the thing that gets me is I cant see how I could be lighting any lights with all the light switches-4way-directionals in the off position,,,,oh and forgot to mention,turn the key on or acc and the left indicator comes on solid for about 8 seconds before it starts pulsing