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Ok guys hears the update! :roll: as u all know my valves had a run in with the pistons we checked and checked again and luckly there still good,the push rods took all the damage,thank god :wink:,so thats done now today we where setting the cam up the way it neede to be the first time,and we came up on a snag :roll: we put the cam gear on and we broke the milidon roller Bearings and thrust washer that come with the gear drive :evil:crap we had it set up great to! :evil: so i got down to the speed show and the kid had no clue what the hell a gear drive was so i called jegs and they hooked me up with a new Bearings kit for the gear drive :D the bad part itll be hear in 2 weeks :evil: Oh well i can wait longer,tonight im putting the heads back on and setting them up good to go,later this week im going to go get some new intake and header gaskets then im gonna get them set up agian i still need to go get a timing cover gasket and water pump gasket,then when my parts come i can bolt her up and giver her another shot! :shock:
 
did you take that thing apart and check it? how about the bottom half, or magnaflux the pistons? I am just going to throw this out and hope someone is telling you that " if you have damage on the lower half and you do get it fired up it is going to come apart." May not happen right when you fire it up but it will fail on the lower half, Like a craked piston or stress fracture or damage to a rod bearing which very well could have happened when the valve hit and you kept turning over for a week before you figured it out. I still think you should throw that gear drive in the garbage. You probly could have bought a chain for what you paid for the bearings, that thing is what has caused this whole mess to begin with.
 
well the gear drive is fine i just set the cam in the wrong way i set it 180 what my dad tells me so its my fault not the gear drive the gear drive has ran before in my car and in 3 other small blocks!we did check the pistons and there still good!they hav the smallest dings in them
 
If you say so, i wouldnt trust what you can see from the top. You may as well go ahead and pull the engine since you have it tore apart anyway and atleast refresh it with rings and bearings. it will cost you less in parts than that fuel cell . have the pistons checked by a machine shop then put it back together. It will be money well spent and if you dont all that money you are spending on the top half may a well be pissed in the drain.
 
i ll look into it,one thing is that if the motor comes out i really dont wont to put it back in im looking at a two 440s right now or ill look for a 340/360 :?
 
I still say a cam can't be 180º out.

Throw that gear drive in the garbage and learn something from this.
How did you check the valves?? If they hit the pistons you may as well change them now cause there going to drop into the motor when she gets some RPM.
 
well one thing if you run that thing the way it is you will have to got to a 440 or another small block because that one will shot
 
well shes got all the goods to put her back on the road,but i still waiting on a new milidon bearing that i broke so i ordered a new one its been two weeks now and still no word,Jegs still hasnt got it from milidon yet so im still waiting for that,i need to get some gaskets,and im ordering a fuel cell,pump,lines,fittings all this week so that fixes my tank probs! :cheers: after i get all the stuff needed shes gonna go back togetheri hav a buddy comin over to set the cam the right way when i get to that point agian!its goin kinda slow now but itll happin in a few more weeks now i just sit in the garage and stair at her and wish i was kickin chevy ***! :thumrigh:
 
Hi;
Did you say you put the distributor in at #1 with the dots lined up 6:00 / 12;00 ? If so you are 180 deg. out , the rotor should point to #6 ......bin der dun dat lots ......try it.
Chryco 8)
 
i now hav her set up dot to dot #1 up top and ready to go shes set right now just need that bearing to get here then my dads friend is coming over to help me set the cam and teach me how to do it the right way,other then that shes gonn run great for the mean time! :scratch:
 
until the first time you get on it and she sees 6500 and those pistons that you banged up come apart and then you have to go and get that 440.
 
**** happiens,if she goes oh well if not great ether way some day shell hav a 440 or a stroker 416 :thumrigh:
 
The plan so far is to order this bearing from summit http://store.summitracing.com/ but i dont knoe if the SBC will work on a mopar????If she does then she good to go other then my fuel system that im gonna get at the same time,do any of u know if the bearing will work?Cuz that is the part that i need,that same think in the pic :bom: my dad is seing if his shop guys at work can make me a bearing like that they do that kinda stuff all the time!so if so thats money saved in my poket! :thumrigh:
 
chad72duster said:
Big Block, Big Block !!!!!!!!! :evil: :evil: :twisted: :twisted:
Or BIG SMALL BLOCK :twisted: :twisted: :cheers: we'll see over time and i get some more money after i just put a new lift and new D60 and D70 under my truck :roll:
 
Just to chime in on all the advice given so far, here's my .02

Verify your cam timing by watching that both the valves are closed on #1 cylinder when you refer the distributor being on TDC. My engine is at TDC with both the crank and the cam reference dots being on top @ 12 o'clock.

As for the pushrods bending, that's bad.... :shock: Measure pushrod lenght. 7.50" is what a stock 318 should have. I messed around with mine between milling the heads & 1.6 rockers and needed 7.23 rods.

And just a personal point of view; throw that damn points distributor in the garbage..... If your hot-rodding your car, certain things should be sh*t-canned. Drum brakes.... Bias Ply tires..... Plastic fuel filters..... Single circut brakes.....There's a reason for technology :tongue:

Good luck and PLEASE keep us posted on your progress. Even if it's a humbling situation where someone might say " I told you so", it's a lesson learned, and advice for the next guy whom might make a mistake.

Some guy like myself who's about to drop a freshly built engine in their car too! Good luck!
 
Well i got my new bearings and washers yesterday,today i called jegs and cancled my order for theres cuz it want gonna be here till the end of october.now i need to call summit some time and get my Cell,lines,pump,filters,fittings,and what ever else i need to do the fuel set up to the carb.i still need to get header,water pump,and intake gaskets,then i think thats it so she can runn right!Ill keep it up guys :salut:
MIKE
 
Hey WHITEZOMBIE I'll sell ya my brand new Jazz 16 gal fuel cell, which has never seen gas. I'll even save ya a few bucks and throw in some homemade fuel cell straps. I live in Martinez so I don't live too far from ya. I can even meet ya part way, at like Pleasanton fairgrounds or something. Let me know if your interested.
I just bought a house, so I'm trying to sell a few things I have extras on.
 
Well hows about a update :roll: I got all my stuff together now,im in the process of building a cage for the fuel cell an thinking of mounts for the pump an filter,still need to order Fittings an a few more flex hoses,other then that shes good to,this week end is hopefully the final set up for the damn cam,i hav it in the ball park,got a timing chain set from my dads friend to set up my cam an degree it,then pull it off,set my gear drive up to the cam,button her back up an HOPEFULLY start her up,my new 904 is in my friends shop gettign a run through,my 8 3/4 is out of my dads Duster an all painted up,i need to buy a new pinion yoke for it then put her in the car as well.then im going to cruise around with the stock tires after the cam is broke in,then we pull her in the garage to relo the springs an mini tub an get some meats under there! :cheers: Well this is the plan if all gos well this weekend or the next :afro:
MIKE
 
got a timing chain set from my dads friend to set up my cam an degree it,then pull it off,set my gear drive up to the cam

Huh? If you degree it with a timing chain, you can't pull the chain off and switch to the gear drive and expect the setting to hold. The whole point of degreeing is to establish a known reference between the cam and crankshaft. The top sprocket of the timing chain allows you to adjust the rotation of the cam a few degrees either direction. Your gear drive should allow the same adjustment, but you would have to through the degreeing process all over again.

Personally, I think you should set that gear drive on a shelf somewhere and forget about it. A good double roller timing chain is all you need. :thumrigh:
 
My dads friend he is going to degree the gear drive after we put it back on the car,so i can learn the best way to do both of them.i know it would be easy to set the thing aside,but that gear drive has been in the family for years,an now my Dart has all the hand me downs that my dad has givin me from his Duster so id like it to be the same but in Dart form
 
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