School me on Stock Eliminator?

Rmchrgr,

The J/SA national recoed is 11.37.
The K/SA national recoer is 11.57.

J/SA Class Index is 12.75
K/SA Class index is 12.95

Rule of thumb is a hundred pounds is worth a tenth. That's not ALWAYS true, but is close, more often than not.

The significance of that is this: There is .2 of a second separating J and K in both records and indexes (indices?)

Your engine with a 4bbl is factored to 210hp.

J is 12.50 pounds per hp; K is 13.0 pounds per hp.

What that means is, you only have to add half a pound per hp to move from J to K.

"J" is the car's "natural" class, at 12.89 pounds per hp.
Ideally, you'd only lose about a tenth going from J to K, because you'd only have to add 105 pounds. But, the index is TWO TENTHS slower... making it a better deal.

Looks to me like K is a MUCH beter deal, for another reason: The shipping weight on that Valiant is ony 2792 pounds. I had a '64 Valiant with a 340 and a 4-speed in it (cast iron 4-speed) and it weighed 2105 with 1/4 of a tank of gas.

At 12.50 pounds per hp, you will only have to weigh 2,635 (without driver.)

That is four hundred an seventy pounds less than my 2-door post '64 Valiant weighed.

I can't imagine how you could legally get iit that light, and you NEED to be that light, strategically, if you're gonna run "J."

At K weight, you'r Valiant would still only have to weigh 2,740 (not including driver), which is better, but still pretty light.

It looks like K would be the better deal, and the advantage would be about a tenth of a second, both with regards to the index and the record.

Food for thought...
Good luck with this; I think it would be a VERY viable and fun car to build!

Bill

Good info Bill. I'm not positive on this, but the Valiant may even be lighter than you say, like 2,650. Never had it weighed, so I can't confirm. I've been looking for shipping weights on the car for a long time, not much on the net or even in the Service Manual. Roll bar, 8 3/4 diff. and iron-headed, iron intake V8 will add pounds, no way around it. Gotta get sneaky about trimming weight.

I agree it's viable, I'm surprised there aren't more in class racing. Perhaps the HP factor wasn't favorable until recently.

You're right about the records, I must have mis-read the list. Either way, a '65 Valiant with a 273 isn't going 11.37 anytime soon. If it eventually went 11.75 I'd be doing a jig.