Hell Fish, look at the one on the front of my car. That came from a 66 Valiant parts car I had as my car was hit in the front end when I got it. Only the emblem is different, but the holes are the same to mount them. Also, look at the one on MeMikes car, also the same. At one time I had 3 of them to choose from, so I painted one the correct flat black, one body color and the third I left primed just in case. In the end I chose to put the correct flat black on, I thought it looked the best. Sorry, Vic, that was 5-6 years ago and sold the extra ones with some extra grills I had for Valiant and Barracuda. I still contend that they are not that hard to find. If I come across one, you'll be the first to know!!! Geof