Thinking outside the box

3404spdvaliant said....
>>>All your chevy loving is making me sick!

What "Chevy loving?" I haven't owned a Chevy for the last 40 years. In fact, in 70 years, I've only owned two... and one was a race car. That was in 1965-'68. How old were you then?
I just love to OUTRUN them.... That's why I want some better heads at a reasonable price to use. What's wrong with that?


>>>First your comparing an old *** design from the sixties to this 2000's LQ9 crap, your not even comparing 2 motors that are equally as old [350 vs 340-360] and when someone else compared this blowtie crap to the new hemi which is a comparison that makes more sense, you go back to comparing the 20th century to the stone age."

Hemi heads won't fit my 360. Of what use is it to me if they flow 500cfm; they won't bolt onto my 360 Magnum. Not pertinent to this discussion...

LQ9 heads are true wedge (do you know what that means?) heads that can be directly compared with an L-A motor head or Magnum, because they are both true wedges. But, I'm not interested in talking about L-A or Magnum heads, only to show what can be done with another head of that design... that it can, with tall ports, flow 300cfm "out of the box."

Guess you missed the point..


>>>>1ST Chevy sucks and always will

I think so, too, that's why I love to beat them to the end of the strip...
Have you beaten a Chevy lately????

>>>>>2ND Chevy has/had-lol more money to sponsor and produced more chevy crap hence the 77 percent you mention[dedham]

That sentence makes no sense at all, and what is a "dedham"? Chevy hasn't sponsored a race car (drag race, anyway) since 1963. That was 45 years ago... and has nothing to do with what goes on today.


>>>>>3RD Chevy 350 heads flow terrible on the intake side and flow great on the exhaust side which causes over scavenging and unburnt fuel out the tail pipe, headers make this even worse, LAME.

Can you show me where I even MENTIONED a 350 Chevy in ANYTHING I posted? Why do you bring them up? They're junk...

>>>>>4TH SB dodge heads flow pretty good with the exception of the [in factory form exhaust] which can be fixed, But really what's harder getting it in? OR PUSHING IT OUT???

You need both... My Magnum heads only flow about 209cfm on the intake (L-A heads flow 212, marginally better), but 178 on the exhaust side (142 for the L-A heads). These figures are off the Hughesengines site, generated by their flow bench. I just want to buy a head that flows 300 out of the box on the intake side, like an LQ9 does. Tell me what's wrong with that?

Clue; that doesn't mean I LOVE Chevys; it means I want to OUTRUN them...
I like nothing better.


5TH NHRA rates the 340 at 325HP and runs it head to head against a 68 or so 396 aluminum intake chevy big block camero WHICH LOSES EVERY TIME!

The only 396 built in 1968 with an aluminum intale iwas a 375HP motor. That engine in a '68 Camaro runs A, B, or C Stock (or, A, B, or C Stock AUTOMATIC.)
Dusters/Demons don't run any of this classes; the highest class they can run is D...

You're thinking of the cast iron, low-rise intake 325HP '68 Camaros, which run in E and F...

>>>>>WHAT CAR HOLDS THE G STOCK RECORD? A DEMON MAYBE?

Should be, or a Duster... but, not right now.

If you will go to: http://tinyurl.com/6agdwa which is the NHRA Stock Car Classification Guide webpage, and scroll down to the horsepower factor for the 1971 340 motor (the highest horsepower you can get in a Duster or Demon), you'll see that the factored horsepower is not 325, but 314. Where did you get your information that it was 325? There are some high-compression Camaro 350s that are rated (factored) to 325hp, but no 340s/360/s.

The G Stock record is held by no one; it's at a minimum. That means the old record was retired (2-year "life" on records in NHRA.) Another way a record can go to "minimum" is if the car that held it picks up horsepower from the Automatic Horsepower Factoring System and is no longer legal for that class.

However, there IS a class record in G/SA... 10.93 @ 119.63, held by an '81 Chevrolet driven by some guy from Scottsville, NY named Jim Marshall. There are a LOT of 340 cars that will eat his lunch, trust me...

Why do you ask; don't you get National DRAGSTER??? Maybe you should...

>>>>6TH Why is it that they make so many parts for a chevy?
COULD IT BE CAUSE EVERYTHING IN A CHEVY SUCKS.

I don't know; it's been so long since I owned one, I can't remember. I don't like to get that close to them...

>>>>>7TH what happens when you put a 4' crank into a 350 chevy?
crank/rod hits the cam.

Poor engine design; what else is new???

>>>>>8TH a 350 chevy with the same cam lift as a 340 with 10cfm more in the heads would still make less power than the mopar due to the mopars longer rods and and larger lifters .

Dunno where you got that information. but it could be true.... but the Chevy has less parasitic drag due to less reciprocating weight, so it might be a wash... One thing's for sure; the Mopar will do it LONGER!!!

>>>>>9TH Can you put these LQ9 heads on your 350 chevy??

If I was dumb enough to own a Chevy, would I be on this forum?

>>>>>10TH I guess you haven't noticed how short all of the 350 chevy ports are and how much taller the SB dodge ports are in comparison.

And, that benefits me HOW, with my 209cfm intake port flow???

>>>>>BTW What's the stroke of the 500hp borevette & cattlejack, 4'?

Will you rephrase that question, please? I can't figure just out what it is that you want/need to know. The 2009 ZR-1 Corvette has a 3.62" stroke...
So what?


>>>>>Hell I'll get 525+HP out of an old stroked out mopar dinosaur engine
with ported iron and spend way less and retain my masculinity unlike the mid life crisis hot rodder yuppies.
Case closed.

Finally.......


>>>>>Now would 300cfm be nice, yea.

That was my whole point; 300cfm without having to port them... The LQ9 simply proves that it can be done. I don't want to have to spend money on porting and exotic valve train hardware when it should be possible to get that kind of port performance from my 360 with out-of-the-box parts.

That's all I was saying.

>>>>>W2's flow that and then some ported, but we're not talking exotic heads or are we? LQ9?????????

No, we're not. LQ9 heads are anything BUT exotic, with the same general design in cast iron on Chevy TRUCKS... True wedge, 2 valves per cylinder, pushrod activated valves, all in a row... Nothing at all exotic about those heads.

Apples to apples; out of the box heads (LQ9's) to out of the box heads (my idea for tall-port L-A/Magnum cast iron aftermarket heads).