hey guys, appreciate all the tips....first off, i know cam choice makes a big difference- im running the mopar 484. lift cam (282 duration) so i know already im going to have a very nice exhaust note =) as far as flow goes, I am going by flowbench results, but also by many who tell of dropping their flowmasters and gaining a tenth or two on the quarter mile...Not saying flowmasters slow you down, but they do kill some power...I know they sound good, but i want sound and flow...Im not really a fan of the way the pypes stuff sounds (but ive never heard in person so cant really say)....The Borla's are loud (Maybe too loud for the street? which is why i started this thread but still havent really learned much about that) and they flow, but yes i agree they are expensive (but do have great construction and a great warranty)...I would like to try the ultra flows, but like i said earlier ive never heard a car with them that impressed me...I think we should have more mopar sound clips on this site....loud is important to me, and so is flow- so i guess this is just an opinion thread now...feel free to drop em guys =)