Its funny that two people say glass packs lol...you usually dont get too many guys supporting those things...and yes i love loud and obnoxious which is why i want a 3 inch exhaust dumped under the car! (3 inch i figure ill do it once so that i dont have to do the exhaust again when i add alot more power)...I was looking into purple hornies before, but there arent many soundclips around on the net (mostly guys bolting them up to shitbuckets) and i dont know anyone around me who runs them to hear first hand...I always thought that glasspaks had a tinny or raspy sound as well, but others have told me no..I was set on borla xr-1's, but they are expensive and found dynomax ultra flow stainless mufflers in there catalog in the size i want, with a nice small case and sound description is "race" as opposed to the other descriptions as "sport":snakeman:...I gotta make a decision this soon:clock: how well do you guys think glasspacks would flow compared to a good straight through muffler like the ultra flow?