:cheers:mopar head, you have just stated what the answer was for the old school work around riddle! The old codger here told me they used to buy the 2 wire ALT if they couldn't get a 1 wire ALT. They would take out 1 of the insulators from 1 of the fields conectors and put the screw back in without the isolater washer, to ground the 2nd spare field!!!!!