i need to sell you some cars. To me both of those are worth half what you said. Now really would you honestly pay that amount for either of them? A friend of mine picked up a 69 bird vert mint for 14k so i cant see a project being worth 10k. Not trying to start a pissing match but high quotes like that and BJ is why a lot of project cars will sit and rot b4 anyone will buy them.