I just didn't look in the right place. All I heard was positive from people who had them on their cars. Nothing posted in a prominent place about the negative. I saw someones post about them and called the number. Was told they were in stock, boxed up, and ready to ship.....Yes, I'm D.A. for believing it....Just think there needs to be a warning posted, like a sticky at the heading of the exuast forum. Let me be the poster child for suckers....just help everyone else who might get suckered....