yea the guys and gals here are good people and fun not alot of sides being took on this forum..thats good and lots of help, just a good place to come and talk kinda like a vac. at home sometime......like i said i plan to go out in the shop and do something ..i can use my hand just cant lift my arm higher than my cest.....so i can still do somethings its good that my son loves cars and helps out as i need....i do other stuff while im home most days clean,vac,cook,wash so my wife came come home and relax..but there somedays i cannt seem to do anything from the pain and the meds putting me to sleep....im glad to be here and talk to you all and pray for all the best to come to them as myself......