Are your drag strips becoming rice tracks

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A360

Benton
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Howdy All
Just finished another season at the track mainly street type events with a few open meetings thrown in.

Question is are your local tracks becoming rice-tracks.
Looking around in the staging lanes last meet a good 75-80% were of vehicles post 1990.

Is this a Australian issue or is this part of the ''Fast and Furious'' trend worldwide?

Cheers

Benton
 
Definately our here, not really sure what you are expecting to see these days though on a street night. You'll see street cars, which out here. Anything considered 'muscle' besides newer mustangs/camaros/firebirds/gtos/etc are pretty thin. Street night, you'll get street cars....which these days are generally what we muscle car guys would call rice. Here at las vegas motor speedway's street nights, id lean twords about 90% rice/import and roughly 300 cars every event. Yes, its annoying waiting in line while these guys 'crack into 16s' like its something to brag about...Its $10-20 to race all night, now you go to say...test n tune...where its much more serious. You'll see about 70% old muscle, 20% late model mustangs/camaros/firebirds and maybe 10% import.
 
I don't get it with the tuners. Seems like you could put two or three A-bodys in the 12s for what they spend to get there in some of these things.
 
Your going to find a change going on. More so as time goes on. The problems are many. The dreaded price per gallon of gas is one. The other problem(s) is how many cars are left through out the years. Price of the car.

If there bragging on 16 sec cars, I would guess and hope they were stock @ 20. The imported cars from the likes of Japan or so plentyful, there cheap. For younger guys and gals, theres a trend going on. Like hair styles and cloths to wear, cars are important to kids too. If the trend is a Hyundia with big wheels and fart pipes, then thats the trend and not likely to be thrown away by them. Do them a favor, take them for a ride in your ride. Let'em know it doesn't have to be a muscle car and show'em how it's done.
The words cheap and inexpensive should be part of how it is owning your car. Not theres. You do that, "Insult them", you'll just drive them away. They'll think things like Pompus *** with a V-8 and his Holy or holier than thou attitude...sp?... Thats the last thing you wanna do.
Lure them in.

In the U.S. and Canada, you can still get a decent V-8 powered car very cheap. OF course, you'll have to settle on a less than desireable car, but thats not the point or something to be holding your head lower about. Sure everyone would like a *Fill in the blank car* to ride and run. But great rides really do not start with the year make model of a car that has become ledgend all ready. It helps.

Examples of cheaper cars that have great potentail would be a ;
From MoPar;
Later B bodys. The F,M,J body cars.
GM's;
Late Novas and Chevelles and the late 70's/early 80's Malibus, the little box cars. They get light fast, easy V-8 swaps.
(Ever get whooped by a Chevette or a Astro van?)
Fords
Cheap V-8 LX stangs, the never wanted Capri, Mavricks do well.

There out there for songs and a dance if you look.

OK, I'm off the soap box on a school lesson. No more ranting. You have your mission. Be gone, be good, go get a kid and convert him. :toothy7:
 
well this saturday they had a rice car meeting at my local strip that totaly destroyed the track prepp for the guys runing there cup on sunday the serius dragraceing seems be mostly musclecars
 
For you fellows that are interested
Below is a link to some photos of my local track that had a pre 1972 day only.
Was great fun, quite a few Aussie Mopars
Just ask if you have questions about them.
Also there is a light weight genuine ramcharger that was imported many many years ago racing here ,how rare are they now?

http://www.highoctanephotos.com/index.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=80

Benton
 
I can say being a car/truck guy that kids like the smaller, newer cars because they can afford them. As kids we all ran what we found, which was likely v8 A bodies are Mustangs etc. Today is not much different.

My biggest issue is that I want the kids to do something. If is working over a Honda so be it, just get greasy. Most are curious, and with some mentorship they can become the next generation of car people.

As a shop teacher, I work on my cars with my kids at school. My wife drives a Honda Civic. It is dead stock and gets the kids looking and asking questions.

When I bring in the Duster they are all fascinated. They think it is real old and cool.

As far as at the track goes, my home track is some distance away in Washington. They have a Friday night Import/Mopar event almost weekly. I would say it is close to 50/50. Lots of Mopars there in the Valley.

ROB
 
A360 said:
Howdy All
Just finished another season at the track mainly street type events with a few open meetings thrown in.

Question is are your local tracks becoming rice-tracks.
Looking around in the staging lanes last meet a good 75-80% were of vehicles post 1990.

Is this a Australian issue or is this part of the ''Fast and Furious'' trend worldwide?

Cheers

Benton

It's like that where I live (San francisco Bay Area) for a few reasons. Ever since the dot-com boom, the price of musclecars have skyrocketed around here. I remember in the early 90's, you could still buy a 340 Duster, or Dart, with a rebuilt drivetrain and requiring little work for about 5 grand. Today, easily above 10K. Even worse for B and E-Bodies. They're just not affordable anymore, but most imports still are.

"Fast and Furious" may have a little to do with it. Years ago I remember watching movies like American Graffiti, Hot Rod (70's version), Dazed and Confused and the Phantasm series and idolizing musclecars because of it. Nowadays, its all about the imports because of cost and practicality and it shows on the big screen.

Demographics. There is a large Asian population in this area. Most of the parents that buy their kids cars own imports and pass these cars on or buy new ones for the kids themselves. I was fortunate that the family hand me down was a 77' 200 series Dodge Van with a 360. Not fast, but did some insane brake-stands. I still have rubber shavings the size of a softball from one particular new years eve party a little while back....not that I do that stuff now...of course not! :---)

Benton, your lucky to have a local racetrack. Ours shut down in the late 80's (Baylands Raceway in Fremont). :cussing: STAN
 
I drive 120 miles each way to my track, I race in the Summit Series and have not gone to the last 4 races because of the lack of track time for time trials because of all of the rice cars there for "test and tune". I race "PRO" and pay the highest entry fee while the "test & tune" guys only pay $25 and and make as many runs as they want. I told the track owner I am done coming to the track because of this problem. He said he was sorry but business is business and the ricers are popular = $. So I am pulling the motor out of my drag car and putting it in a '72 Duster I just picked up to make a hot street car and do the car show thing and race only Mopar or muscle car events. It sucks because I have been drag racing for 25+ years in and now have to call it quits.
 
we had problems with politicians closing our track down here in stockholm and that resulted in a streetrace series called birkacup with cars normaly racing in superprostreet,wild 8second cars on the street....
just one year later the track was open again....
 
A360 said:
For you fellows that are interested
Below is a link to some photos of my local track that had a pre 1972 day only.
Was great fun, quite a few Aussie Mopars
Just ask if you have questions about them.
Also there is a light weight genuine ramcharger that was imported many many years ago racing here ,how rare are they now?

http://www.highoctanephotos.com/index.php?name=coppermine&file=thumbnails&album=80

Benton

Those are some sweet cars. But it looks like every picture is reversed. The drivers are all sitting on the passanger side. HEHE
 
Very good I just heard on the radio that the only reason the US drives on the RH side has something to do with independence and wonting nothing to do with what the English do or did :pain10:

Any way our track buit here was built by the State Govenment here. www.motorplex.com.au

The track is thinking of having days that are specific to the ''Tuners''
as opposed to the more traditional vehicles which will have their own days.
Let alone the amount of bikes racing.
Many nights (street meets) if you do not get to the track by 6.30pm you car'nt race do to excessive numbers.


Benton
 
At our local dragstrip there is not many imports. Just 5.0 Mustangs and Chevies. All of the imports are on the street. I can't brag much though becasue my Duster only runs 19's but more things are on the way. I am going to recurve my distributor and I hope that will get me into the 18's. My gears ar ethe biggest thing holding me back though.
 
Our track (Cayuga) gets lots of ricers, and I couldn't be happier. It keeps them off the streets.
At least the kids are "car guys".
 
jeeper said:
I can say being a car/truck guy that kids like the smaller, newer cars because they can afford them. As kids we all ran what we found, which was likely v8 A bodies are Mustangs etc. Today is not much different.

My biggest issue is that I want the kids to do something. If is working over a Honda so be it, just get greasy. Most are curious, and with some mentorship they can become the next generation of car people.

As a shop teacher, I work on my cars with my kids at school. My wife drives a Honda Civic. It is dead stock and gets the kids looking and asking questions.

When I bring in the Duster they are all fascinated. They think it is real old and cool.

As far as at the track goes, my home track is some distance away in Washington. They have a Friday night Import/Mopar event almost weekly. I would say it is close to 50/50. Lots of Mopars there in the Valley.

ROB


Couldn't agree more. At least they're not just hangin' around, looking for trouble.
 
Funny thing is that in Australia the old V8 models are generally cheaper to buy
than the imports by a matter of 000's of dollars.

Agree that at least they have an interest that does'nt destroy things around them.

Benton
 
Around here it depends on the night. We have a lot of real racing going on around here, with 5 different tracks within a one hour drive. Some nights are have a lot of rice, but others are mostly muscle.

I have a friend that is in to imports, but everyone is impressed with the extent he went to make sure his car was not ricey. I know it sounds like a contradiction, but his car is done very nicely, and is pretty quick for being a N/A 4 banger.

What blows my mind is the COST of building an import car...geesh they are not cheap.
 
I am in the middle of texas we have alot of disels smokein the track up. Pretty good amount of burners to. I can't blame those tuners gas prices so high they can run to the track getr 25 miles to the gallon and run a 14.
 
i still havnt been to my local track but there are alot of 'rice' car that head out there during the test and tune days. But about anytime i see a turbo riced car i just think my n/a 360 will be kicking there a$$ and they are turboed some twin turboed, just something that is kinda funny. NO replacement for displacement :salute: but i was thinking of putting a turbo kit on my honda just for something different, i mean thats the thing and its cheap i could turbo my car for under $800, but i still have my sites set on finishing my cuda's other fender and driving that, man i cant wait. :)
 
Go check out those Aussie drag racin pictures. ANd notice the counters. The cars have 8 or 9 hits on them and the good lookin girl has almost 100 at last count. It seems we would rather look at BOOBS than Barracudas. Or cans rather than cams.......
 
At late I have been seeing more and more of the F-bodies showing up. The first time I saw a volare pull up to the line I laughed my a$$ off until I saw what the right 360 in one of those can do. He pulled the mill out of an old van and got the car for next to nothing. So while his car is the butt of more than a few jokes, for very short $ and his own labor he has a streetable racer that will eat most riced-out civics for the same $. Necessity really is the mother of invention.

-LY
 
Some consider me as one of those"ricers" but just because i have an import that i drag and race. Our local drag has way more american than any other car. When i say american it's cuz there are alot of non muscle there not many older cars at all. I have a 1976 280z datsun that is my baby it is turbocharged and my best time to date on pump gas, street tires and the stock bottom end is 12.38@116mph i have a hell of a time making it hook with street rubber under it. I know that my z would wipe the floor with my cuda but i still love both the same. I do have to admit even though the cuda doesn't have the power my z does it does have better low end torque. Now when the turbo gets spooled up the z will whoop it in torque as well. Some of the ricers are really cool they respect the power of the old muscle and the style of the bodies. :)
 
Na just more Mopars ! LoL ! This pic is from a muscle car race about a month ago. It was put on by a Corvette and Camaro club. And these 3 cars were the final 3 left in the 12.99 and faster class in a sea of Vette's and Camaro's. In fact we were about the only 3 Mope's in the class and we showed them Bowtie boys how the Mopars run ! The add for the race said "All muscle cars welcome" but only muscle cars no foreign wanna bee's.
I would say I see alot more ricers then I used to but most of the kid's are cool and just into cars like us. They just grew up in the wrong era. LoL. In fact we had 2 kids come up and look over my boys Dart and comment on how they liked it. I enjoyed talking to the youngsters. And when I walked up to a young man in his 11 second SRT-4 he looked shocked when I asked him what turbo he was using. Then we talked a bit and he was very nice. I myself like our 60's and 70's muscle cars the best of course but I don't mind the kids racing their modern rice as they are doing what they enjoy like us and some can be very fast. Ron

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