I spent several hours talking with a GM exhaust engineer and the guy took the picture of Harolds design and painstakingly plugged it into his simulator at the GM design center.....harolds design actually causes damage and based on the TRI Y the flow, mix & pull ( exhaust synergy ) whatever the hell that is, comes out to be below that of a standard 340 cast iron manifold in fact its worse that that OF A standard 318 cast manifold!!!