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I guess I didn't fully understand redfish explanation. If I had a metal bit big enough I would've tried drilling off the head. That was a hard way to learn this one, I'm lucky everything went back together ok.

Also I did see on a couple other threads about getting new studs in the rear axles and not having room to get the stud in the back on the small rear ends. I ran into this but just take off the brake cylinder and use that hole, FYI.

Ok. I'm surprised someone didn't already chime in with this one, I'm sure it's here already if I had known what to search for. The original studs have what I'm calling chines going all the way through the hub, normal. However I've never seen this setup, the chines also bite into the drum, on top...

I'll try drilling them out tonight. Thanks.

Yes I did plan on new studs and nuts, so I wasn't worried about ruining them, I beat them hard! They refuse to budge not even one stud came out.

Those are for 9 inch?

I'm probably not going to like the answer but here goes. 69 dart with drums, I need to replace the front drums and they have welded themselves to the hubs, no amount of persuasion seems to help at all. My last hop for them is taking to my mechanic and put them in a press but I don't have high...