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Go to a diaphragm clutch, if it doesn't already have it. Take the over center spring off, and give it to your neighbor. The clutch is soooo much smoother without it.

Lol...Read your thread again. Congrats on the diaphragm clutch.

Nice !!!! What kind of clutch are you going with ?

If you read, the conversation took a turn towards the "stock type" (borg warner) clutch, and keeping the spring.

You keep the spring with the old 3 finger borg warner clutch. F**k that noise, get with the times, lose the spring and get a diaphragm clutch. Works like butter, without that weird feeling the spring gives. Night and day difference. Good luck !!!

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That's a big ONM. You shouldn't waste peoples time helping you. Good luck.

My 4spd car is a slant six as well. Get a diaphragm pressure plate. Get rid of the over center spring, and you will be amazed at the difference in the clutch feel.Smooth as butter.

Now's your chance to get rid of the Borg &Beck pressure plate and go with a better Diaphragm style. Then you can get rid of the clutch pedal over center spring. Gives the clutch a much better feel.

Owners maual in the glove box ?

My 4 speed car has a slant 6, so full on Ronnie Sox power shifts doesnt happen much. What I do know is, overall shifting has improved immensely. Before, there was occasional grinding on downshifts, which it has smoothed out. With the synthetic properties, it is much better with high heat. It...

Cool...GL-4 I prefer the Redline MT-90 synthetic GL-4 Total game changer in my 833.

Curios, what type/brand of oil you are using ?

You want to use a GL4 in your 833, which is designed for soft brass syncros, which the 833 has. Put in some Redline MT-90 GL4, and dont look back.

Bingo......Redline MTL. Installed this in my 833, and it shifts so much better. Read up on brass syncros, and what type of oil they need. Then put Redline MTL in. You wont be sorry.

Measure the top lever, and match it with Brewers measurement. Looks like an early A like I mentioned earlier.

Well gee wilikers, look at that. No Factory stops on the 64-65 A body shifter.

A part number would surely help. But from the looks of it, Early A.

Not true. I have a 65 factory Hurst 4 spd Dart. All original. The shifter has no stops.

Brewers sells new shims, including the shim with the bend. after time the shim with the bend flattens, creating a loose,rattling shifter.

If your going to ask the question, you have to trust our answer. If you have a diaphragm clutch.....Yes,Take the spring off. It isnt going to be easy to get out, but it should be removed. You will be much happier with the feel of the clutch. See that little orange car to the left ? Factory...

If you have a diaphragm clutch, remove it. Period. You wont have that hitch, or over center,feeling when you press the clutch in. Much smoother without the spring. Nobody uses the borg warner clutch anymore anyways. Remove it, and chuck it as far as you can. Or put it on ebay for something like...

I like your style........:thumrigh:

It might be cheaper to get the necessary parts for your trans,then to get another trans.

A simple "no" would have sufficed.....No reason to be an jerk.

Maybe he speaks a different language,or just has a hard time writing. Don't see any reason for giving the guy a hard time. You need to learn how to treat people with a little dignity and respect. Your shtick is uncalled for,and frankly getting old.

Thats a good question. I stayed with the b&t on my car. You definately dont want to play around with questionable driveline. I would give Wayne at www.brewersperformance.com a call on this one. Great guy, full of this type of knowledge.

So what you are saying is,you have an early b&t trans,and wondering if a later model yoke will work on it ?

If you have all the parts to run the ball an trunion,run it. You'll be fine.