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Hmmm, so, who's going to attempt to put all the data together, calculate, add up and come to an educated conclusion as to why the factories welded a washer (or as we just saw, a disc) to indicate that a 340 is going to drop into this car. Or, is someone going to come across this and say they...

Yes, they were all Y39 special order cars and it could have been a dealer request (along with the order) to have torque boxes in place but like all the '70's etc., they were hit and miss, 2 on some, 4 on others and a couple didn't have them. That's truer for the '71 Swinger 340 Specials because...

Sounds like a plan, let's see if we can make a spread sheet type document (oooh, almost sounds like working in an office) and see if there's a common denominator. Let's break it out something like this: Year and model, transmission type, brakes - disc or drum, sway bar, torque boxes - front...

Couple quick question on A-Body torque boxes... I have a couple 340 Swingers - a '70 4 speed version and a '72 automatic (cdn) - the 4 speed car has front boxes and none in the back. My '72 automatic has boxes on all 4 corners which I understand/hear is not something you find everyday (the '72...

DFX, torque boxes are sheetmetal boxes that the factory used on Hemi and convertible models (in this case, a select few A-bodies) to strengthen the uni-body design and improve handling (factory subframe connectors). These boxes are located behind the front wheels and in front of the rear wheels...

Hey DFX – replying late to this one but is that for sure that only 4 speed cars got torque boxes? My 72 automatic has on all 4 corners and I said the 70 340 4 speed car has on front but might be on all 4 as well. Do we know if they split up with only 2 on the front or 2 on the back? I have seen...

Thanks, that answers a few questions and verifies a few others. Hmmm, but the hunt continues on the 'washer' front...

Observation... I might be wrong, but isn't a 6 cyl K-member totally different? You can't drop a V8 into a car that had a 225 - wasn't there even something slightly different between a 318 K-member and the 340 before '73 ('73 and up changed the motor mounts). Would the washer thing have something...

70 Swinger 340, 4 spd, discs, sway bar, front torque boxes - washer 72 Swinger 340 spcl, auto, drums, sway bar, front & rear torque boxes - washer Not sure if torque boxes have anything to do with it, but why not see...

Alrighty, my 70 340 Swinger with 4sp has both – washer and sway bar. My 72 Swinger 340 Special with auto has both – washer and sway bar. The Kmembers on both are original to the cars. The 70 is disc brake and the 72 is 10 inch drums. The 70 has torque boxes on all 4 corners and so does the 72 –...

Which B-bodies had the washers? You said the '69.5, so would that be 440+6 cars – super bees and RR's? Others?

Yes, would be great if it continued especially to find out if there was a year ('69 or '70) or build date when this factory exercise was implemented. Also, it looks like it wasn't just one factory assembly line that did it because most of the Darts were built on the Windsor plant and the Dusters...

You don't know how right you are on the 'Canadian winter' thing!!! The Edmonton, Alberta (Crosstown) cars really took a $#*% kicking because it snows a lot more, thus more salt is put onto the streets, more than Regina, Saskatchewan (think Minot, North Dakota), just as cold tho. So, restoring...

Well lookie here! Just coming off a 340 Special high X 2. We just debuted the first restored '72 Swinger 340 Special up in Red Deer, Alberta (Western Canada) and just to the back of it at the show was a '71 C7 340 Special which is only the second to be restored a couple years ago (thanks Kevin...

Yes, essentially 1970 was the last year for the 340 in the Dart Swinger but two dealerships up here in Western Canada pulled off a bit of coup when they convinced Chrysler head office to run a batch of sixty five '71's just for them. Then in '72, that order must have stayed in the 'head offices'...

Yeah, what's up with that? Even the rare ones got the 'washer' - my '72 Swinger 340 Special has one and the guys up here with the '71 Swinger 340 Specials have got them as well. At first I thought it was only these 'special' order Swingers but I checked my '70 340 Swinger and it has it too. Has...