one bad 440
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Onebad440, good luck with the sale. Whoever gets it not only gets a piece of history, but a wagon load of debate as well. Good info, though.
Thank you, if you know anyone interested in it send them my way.
Onebad440, good luck with the sale. Whoever gets it not only gets a piece of history, but a wagon load of debate as well. Good info, though.
RRsavoy made a lot of good points with a lot of good info, it actually made me and dad go back thru our vast collection of TSB's and HP service manuals from chrysler. The date code stamp is still up in the air for me to confirm exactly how to read it but regardless this engine is what it is. As far as the SA carbs the stgIII carbs all had SA in their numbers and though I cannot find any definate designation as to the SA on my carbs I personally have never seen a set outside the pics posted of a set of carbs without the SA in the number. I even pulled another set of carbs off the shelf from my 63 Fury and thos too have SA on them, hard to believe all of these were replacements, not arguing just saying.
Thanks for all the replies and interest, if anyone knows of someone that might be interested I would appreciate them sending them my way.
PS if this engine didnt spark enough interest just wait to see what I advertise next...
The date code stamp is still up in the air for me to confirm exactly how to read it but regardless this engine is what it is.
OK, seems to be the best spot for expert advice. Neighbor passed last year and was a stock car racer from the 50s. Much of his collection was outside but the prized stuff was in the house. Most of what he had he kept very quiet about. He told me told that he had a wedge motor that was built for Daytona in 1963 that he got when he work the speed shops in Florida. I just saw it today. It is perhaps never ran and a spare of which I am trying to verify. It is a silver NOS Chrysler high compression block with a red Chrysler metal tag held on with one rivet on the pass side. That too has a number stamped on it. The heads and manifold as well as air cleaners, carbs and the under the car factory large tube exhaust with cross over and cutout plates. Have yet to locater the cast iron exhaust headers but I believe they are somewhere. It has flywheel and clutch.
What is thing? Never heard of a factory race short block with the HC stamp selected in this thread. It definitely was not sold in a car. Once we find all the parts it is for sale. Has a factory compilation of literature with the exhaust pictured in it as well. Any help is appreciated. I will get photos.
Unless you can see under the carbs I dont see how you could tell them apart, they look identical as far as I could ever tell.
Difference is stgI and II are 1 9/16th primary with 1 11/16th secondary that goes with the 3447S carbs
StgIII is 1 11/16 primary 1 11/16th secondary with the 3705S carbs.
This is stg II with the 3447S carbs.
It is a Stage 1 intake. Stage 2 has the larger primaries for the 3705 carbs and the stage 3 has a different slope to the plenum. 413 MW are not stage one engines.
Block casting date,
Block pad stamp,
Let me define the stamping, the first number is the year the second the day and the third the month. 3=63, 16=16th day,08=8th month august.
Carb stamp,