Hey Bob, what kinda shipping charge did thay stick you with on your pans?? I've shipped alot of big car parts includeing floor pans, these couldn't be oversize... Thay have the rear floor pans now ($120.00 each).. I thought about waiting on getting a parts car, as bad as my front pans are I'm guessing a parts car will look about the same, my Valiant came out of Georgia, theres not a spot of rust anywhere else on the car, just the floor pans, must have been the old carpet that caused it...