Uncle Bob
Shiny paint causes stress.
I'm guessing these studs will work with any windage tray, but am sure wondering why there are 5 long studs in the kit when there are only four bolt holes in the windage tray?
ARP main studs for a windage tray
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Probably the same bolt kit used on the early Hemi's
Milodon 32235 Milodon Windage Trays | Summit Racing
Milodon 32235 Milodon Windage Trays | Summit Racing
Professor Fate
Push the button, Max...
You only need 4.
Windage tray with ARP
Windage tray with ARP
Uncle Bob
Shiny paint causes stress.
Thanks for the link. It looks like a PITA no matter what parts I use. It's tempting to just not use a tray since I don't already have one.
If you are going to use studs they torque differently than bolts.
Not sure mixing studs and bolts is a good idea.
In addition to the studs you will also need one special low profile fastener under the oil pump.
I had to call ARP direct and request it.
Not sure mixing studs and bolts is a good idea.
In addition to the studs you will also need one special low profile fastener under the oil pump.
I had to call ARP direct and request it.
Uncle Bob
Shiny paint causes stress.
Milodon sells a kit with only the 4 studs/nuts needed to mount the tray.
Milodon 81151 Milodon Windage Tray Stud Kits | Summit Racing
I wonder if that is easier to deal with so far as studs hitting the pan?
dano
Evil Handy Man
If your building the motor, mock this up and have the block aligned hone with the stud or mix of studs and bolts.
As noted the oil pump has clearance issues with the stud, some have had the cap spot face cut lower to clear.
With the ARP kit, you need to open up the factory windage tray holes, at least I did with mine.
As noted the oil pump has clearance issues with the stud, some have had the cap spot face cut lower to clear.
With the ARP kit, you need to open up the factory windage tray holes, at least I did with mine.
Uncle Bob
Shiny paint causes stress.
If I have to do that then my decision is made because the machine work is already done. I'm not signing up for that aggravation again. Months of waiting and TBH disappointing work when I finally did get my block back.
I guess if I can't find the impossible to find factory bolts then studs are my only alternative?
Professor Fate
Push the button, Max...
Pretty much.
And I'll get flamed for saying this, but I wouldn't overly worry about line honing the mains with studs. Mic the saddle bores across a few different axis to confirm if it concerns you too much.
Just adhere to the recommended torque values for the studs (not the bolt torque)- fine threads exert greater pressure on the caps than coarse threads and can distort the bore if exceeded.
dano
Evil Handy Man
If you don't have the bolts, you might put out a wanted add. Someone probably has a set. I don't know if they are still made new.
Stock bolts will not work with a milodon tray. Best to use their fasteners with their tray, lot less problems.
Uncle Bob > Uncle Tony. Just saying. Carry on.
Hyper_pak
Old School Chrysler Fan
Question, does ARP supply the torque value for the fine thread?
What’s a windage tray. Lol.
Professor Fate
Push the button, Max...
I believe they did, it's been a while since I used a stud kit. My notes say 70# with moly lube, 80 with engine oil- but I would contact them to confirm.
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