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1994redram

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I've supposedly got a TCI valvebody in my 727. The trans builder put the and several parts into my trans. After giving him two chances to fix it, I tore I to myself and built it. The valvebody has no markings on it and it looks like a used old regular valvebody with a modest shift kit in it. The transgo stage 2 shift kit has more "mods" than this thing.

I'm tired of trying to get it to shift firm and correctly. I have rebuilt the trans and installed billet servos, solid bands, 3.2 lever, etc. I want a different valvebody this time. I'm not chancing this (maybe) TCI piece again.

I'm looking for a forward pattern valvebody. I highly prefer an automatic valvebody but I'm not opposed to getting a manual. I'm using and keeping the factory console shifter.

I'm looking at SMR pro sportsman or a Cope valvebody. Does anyone have experience with either of those? Any reason why I should choose manual over automatic?
 
Another one to look at is A&A Transmissions. I have and have had 3 of their manual forward shift valve bodies.They make 'um with or without low band applied.I had one of each. I believe they even have a Manual/Automatic type too.
Edit,I have had 3 of the A&A valve bodies 2 in 904's and 1 in a 727.
 
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Darter6 said:
Another one to look at is A&A Transmissions. I have and have had 2 of their manual forward shift valve bodies.They make 'um with or without low band applied.I had one of each. I believe they even have a Manual/Automatic type too.
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I was looking at the A&A one, specifically the low band apply. My car has a forward pattern Hurst Quarter Stick and I'd like to keep it that way.

Cope racing does have the forward manual valve body but describes it as a low HP girl car application, something to do with line pressures. I'm not savvy enough on the subject to know the differences between that and a reverse pattern apart from the shifting pattern.
 
1994redram said:
I've supposedly got a TCI valvebody in my 727. The trans builder put the and several parts into my trans. After giving him two chances to fix it, I tore I to myself and built it. The valvebody has no markings on it and it looks like a used old regular valvebody with a modest shift kit in it. The transgo stage 2 shift kit has more "mods" than this thing.

I'm tired of trying to get it to shift firm and correctly. I have rebuilt the trans and installed billet servos, solid bands, 3.2 lever, etc. I want a different valvebody this time. I'm not chancing this (maybe) TCI piece again.

I'm looking for a forward pattern valvebody. I highly prefer an automatic valvebody but I'm not opposed to getting a manual. I'm using and keeping the factory console shifter.

I'm looking at SMR pro sportsman or a Cope valvebody. Does anyone have experience with either of those? Any reason why I should choose manual over automatic?
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This is direct from the Cope Transmission website.

"Forward manual valve body with low band apply. Not recommended for high horsepower applications
BECAUSE HIGH HORSEPOWER TRANSMISSIONS NEED A HIGH PRESSURES YOU JUST CANT GET FROM A FORWARD MANUAL PLUS, FORWARD MANUAL SHIFTS ARE FOR GIRLS. BE A MAN AND RUN A REVERSE MANUAL VALVE BODY. see shift r gates
but works well when a reverse pattern cannot be used. P R N 3 2 1 shift pattern. A low reverse billet servo kit is required with this valve body For Street chick cars only fits 1966-1980
P R N 3 2 1"
 
Well that's a matter of opinion.Or Cope isn't building them as such..
I ran mine (low gear applied)behind a 451 stroker B body @ 3800 lbs. With hundreds of passes between '04-'06 after that it was behind my 472 Hemi engine in the same car.Just resently the car was put back to street duty only and I removed the Valve body and replaced it with a stock one.
The Dart in my avatar running a 904 ran the non low gear band applied in a dedicated race car for almost ten years before it went to the 64 Dart that was a street and strip car.The car was sold about 4 years ago and it still was in it. I would call A&A,I'm sure they will tell you what's up.My 2 cents.
 
What are the advantages of a forward vs reverse pattern. And manual vs automatic?
 
I have plans to build one more car for the track.Hanging on to it for now.
 
This is just my opinion. A forward shift puts high gear ( manual shift use)and neutral next to each other. Some guys like to neutral and coast after completing a run.
I understand that you can do it with a reverse pattern with the proper shifter. I was always afraid to try because of having a ratchet shifter.
 
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