Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries & 2947 cnties in US

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Steve welder said:
Its understandable you'd interpret it that way. Thank God people weren't so easily brainwashed back when the polio vaccine came into play
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It's all about the delivery Steve, the mainstream news that told everyone trump was somehow involved with Russian collusion for 4 years is also the same mainstream news lying about covid for almost 2 years now, lol. Time to open up those eyes buddy, by the way since the Russian colluder was also called the biggest idiot president in history oh and Hitler amongst other names, how smart would the democrats and mainstream media be for not coming close to proving it ? I'd say that's what I'd be thinking about if I was a man in your shoes.
 
greymouser7 said:
I do not believe that it indicates that masks, hands washing, and distance are ineffective, simply the vaccination against the Delta and future variations of Covid-19; with respect sir.
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Thank you greymouser7, all that stuff "Can" work but I believe the masks (blue ones) definitely are the biggest joke of the equation. They're no way near a n95 which isn't good enough to stop a virus. Virus particles are smaller than the scent of a fart which can be smelled ( lol actually tasted) easily through an n95 mask, in my opinion would be a bare minimum. Funny thing is they all disappeared off the shelves and I hardly seen anyone wearing them, something to think about.
Respect back atcha
 
I'll check in tomorrow hopefully we've reached unity as fabo by then.
 
MOPARMAGA said:
It's all about the delivery Steve, the mainstream news that told everyone trump was somehow involved with Russian collusion for 4 years is also the same mainstream news lying about covid for almost 2 years now, lol. Time to open up those eyes buddy, by the way since the Russian colluder was also called the biggest idiot president in history oh and Hitler amongst other names, how smart would the democrats and mainstream media be for not coming close to proving it ? I'd say that's what I'd be thinking about if I was a man in your shoes.
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News is lying about COVID???? Ok and the news you listen to is telling the truth???? Your going to tell me Russia did not try to get involved in our electoral process???? Did you not listen to Trump himself during that interview in January 2020????? Were do you live, because were I live, the people I know, the doctors I talk to, the pictures I saw and the people I talked to COVID killed a lot of people.... Hospitals were bursting from the seams treating COVID patients.....How many people I knew got COVID got seriously sick, in hospitals, some on vents, some dead.....We go to Sloan in the city, theses people its their lives work fighting cancer, what do you think those doctors told us about Covid? Not some political and not some news media...... I live in reality, I know what I see and distrust what I cant until its proven, im suspicious of a lot..... Read this slowly, so my wife was diagnosed Stage 4 over eleven years ago, its through Gods will and Sloan memorial she is alive......We were both told in no uncertain terms, she cannot contract COVID and the reasons why but what if she did? What if being her having a weakened immune system which she does, her body couldn't fight this virus and she died, what would I say, cancer killed her or COVID....... Her cousin was one of Gods special children, Downs syndrome, she was in her early fifties which from what im told is well past the age many Downs live..... She was non verbal but she was otherwise pretty healthy....She lived in a group home.....By the time she was discovered to be sick it was to late, she died all alone in the ICU of the local hospital here.....What killed her Downs or COVID
 
Say what you want; around here 85% of the people in the hospital with COVID are not vaccinated. That is the official statistic. You can't spin that. I fully support your right to choose, but you can't spin the truth.
 
harrisonm said:
Say what you want; around here 85% of the people in the hospital with COVID are not vaccinated. That is the official statistic. You can't spin that. I fully support your right to choose, but you can't spin the truth.
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Uh yes they could be lying....they do that.
Yeah whoever is in power gets to decide what the Accepted truth is and it can be farther from fact then you'd ever dream, you've been around long enough to know that I'm sure.
 
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Steve welder said:
News is lying about COVID???? Ok and the news you listen to is telling the truth???? Your going to tell me Russia did not try to get involved in our electoral process???? Did you not listen to Trump himself during that interview in January 2020????? Were do you live, because were I live, the people I know, the doctors I talk to, the pictures I saw and the people I talked to COVID killed a lot of people.... Hospitals were bursting from the seams treating COVID patients.....How many people I knew got COVID got seriously sick, in hospitals, some on vents, some dead.....We go to Sloan in the city, theses people its their lives work fighting cancer, what do you think those doctors told us about Covid? Not some political and not some news media...... I live in reality, I know what I see and distrust what I cant until its proven, im suspicious of a lot..... Read this slowly, so my wife was diagnosed Stage 4 over eleven years ago, its through Gods will and Sloan memorial she is alive......We were both told in no uncertain terms, she cannot contract COVID and the reasons why but what if she did? What if being her having a weakened immune system which she does, her body couldn't fight this virus and she died, what would I say, cancer killed her or COVID....... Her cousin was one of Gods special children, Downs syndrome, she was in her early fifties which from what im told is well past the age many Downs live..... She was non verbal but she was otherwise pretty healthy....She lived in a group home.....By the time she was discovered to be sick it was to late, she died all alone in the ICU of the local hospital here.....What killed her Downs or COVID
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Sorry about your wife & her cousin. The correct way to classify is died with covid not only from covid as the media falsely claimed deaths at 20 to 1 at 200,000. No one's saying covid isn't real Steve. What I'm saying about the lying media & politicians is they all downplayed & some even said they wouldn't take the vaccine when t was prez, now there pushing it, over pushing it, rushing a vaccine past emergency use to give another false sense of security. I'll say it like this, the pro abortion party really is suddenly pro life, the fools who say my body my choice to Kill a unborn baby, can't accept a person not wanting a rushed ineffective vaccine.
My co workers daughter is in the hospital in a coma from a blood clot directly caused from the vaccine & there's several hundred who have died the same way from this experiment. Hey maybe this is exactly what the government is wanting to happen continue dividing this country. Again sorry for your loved ones Steve.
 
You know the orange troll started his own social media outlet. Maybe we should just take all this crap over there where you can hear what you want to hear and we can get back to talking about cars. It doesn't make a difference which side you are on it isn't going to change anyone's opinion. Just like most that preach my body my choice are the first in line to tell a woman what she can or can't do with hers. It's a shame this forum has went to **** like so many others that cannot accept the fact people have different views on life.
 
toplscuda said:
You know the orange troll started his own social media outlet. Maybe we should just take all this crap over there where you can hear what you want to hear and we can get back to talking about cars. It doesn't make a difference which side you are on it isn't going to change anyone's opinion. Just like most that preach my body my choice are the first in line to tell a woman what she can or can't do with hers. It's a shame this forum has went to **** like so many others that cannot accept the fact people have different views on life.
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You should try to moderate this mess.

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My opinion is that is it unwise to assume you are getting all of the news from most of the mainstream media. I consistently see a trend where certain stories are told, but only the ones that further a certain narrative. Are they directly lying to us? Probably not. But that doesn't mean they aren't highlighting stories to shape public opinion and ignoring others that might change opinion.

One small example of this is Israel. Not one word (that I have heard) about the conditions there after it received glowing praise for how fast they were immunizing their population. Nothing about how cases haven't still spiked. And yes I looked it up, not reading from a script on FB. Feels like a story to be ignored because it might reduce the pressure people might feel to get immunized.

Another one is the continual line that hospitals are full because of covid patients. At least that is the story locally. What they leave out is that due to several issues (one being a mandated vaccine), they are all understaffed and can't fill the beds they have. Add that car accident, cancer, heart attacks, etc. haven't stopped just because of covid. So, are the beds full? I think so, but limited by staffing not space. Is every patient a covid patient? I know they aren't. And this isn't from some news source, this is from people I know personally that work at the places.

Sorry, but I don't trust the local news. Nor do I trust our "elected" officials.
 
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