Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries & 2947 cnties in US

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Steve welder said:
Sure im drinking Kool aid and what are you drinking smoking or being brainwashed about and its not your choice when you refuse to take precautions and get another person sick or worse
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Oh it's my choice big boy..... I'm still waiting for the clan to show up with their Jab stick and force it..... Let's just quit screwing around and get with it....

JW
 
DionR said:
My opinion is that is it unwise to assume you are getting all of the news from most of the mainstream media. I consistently see a trend where certain stories are told, but only the ones that further a certain narrative. Are they directly lying to us? Probably not. But that doesn't mean they aren't highlighting stories to shape public opinion and ignoring others that might change opinion.

One small example of this is Israel. Not one word (that I have heard) about the conditions there after it received glowing praise for how fast they were immunizing their population. Nothing about how cases haven't still spiked. And yes I looked it up, not reading from a script on FB. Feels like a story to be ignored because it might reduce the pressure people might feel to get immunized.

Another one is the continual line that hospitals are full because of covid patients. At least that is the story locally. What they leave out is that due to several issues (one being a mandated vaccine), they are all understaffed and can't fill the beds they have. Add that car accident, cancer, heart attacks, etc. haven't stopped just because of covid. So, are the beds full? I think so, but limited by staffing not space. Is every patient a covid patient? I know they aren't. And this isn't from some news source, this is from people I know personally that work at the places.

Sorry, but I don't trust the local news. Nor do I trust our "elected" officials.
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Have you ever considered a job in investigative reporting ? Your take on what is going on is spot on.
What they fail to report is that most hospitals don't have that many beds in ICU, on any given day 1/2 or more are taken up by traumatic injury and heart patients.
Idaho has only 555 statewide.
 
DionR said:
That's what has me frustrated. I was content to sit and watch on the sidelines until it became a mandate.

Ok, that and the fact that the topic of natural immunity from getting over covid is completely ignored. Not that it is better or worse, that it isn't even discussed. It's almost as if the topic is hate speech.
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IT is being discussed now, but it's discussed in an isolated sense. For example, the other day the msm published an article that stated people with natural immunity should expect to be reinfected every 16-18 months. (well they didn't mentioned that the vaxxed are being reinfected in 2 to 6 months) THey also left out the outcomes of reinfection in individuals with natural immunity, which is mild or asymtomatic cases.
 
dartindanno said:
This is the most vaccinated place in the world at 97% yet cases are rising
Gibraltar COVID: 6,029 Cases and 98 Deaths - Worldometer (worldometers.info)
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Because they are taking the people of this country for a ride..... I know someone right now mad as a wet Hen because they were hesistant (extremely) about getting the Jab but did it due to work requirements. He contracted it and his wife and daughter have it. All Vaxxed. You can put all the scientific crap you want in excuses but there are none. It ain't working.....

JW
 
My sister in law wasn't feeling well and went to the doctor yesterday. They tested her for Covid - negative. Doc said she has pneumonia.

Went back today to go over lab and doctor tested her again - positive.

It's all Bullshit. All of it.
 
My Doctor doesn’t pester but has asked me every six months if I’m ready to get vaccinated. I say no and he drops the subject. I’ve never had a Pneumonia shot
And he asked if I would at least get that. I agreed and he was happy.
 
I got the jab cause I was working in the hospital at the time.

My fingernails and toenails are growing now. I never had to cut them before but do now. Weird...
 
More CDC reports for vaccine events of children. 9.3% of serious events including death is not a chance I would take with my kids

Overall, 8,383 (90.7%) VAERS reports were for nonserious events, and 863 (9.3%) for serious events, including death; 609 (70.6%) reports of serious events were among males, and median age was 15 years. The most commonly reported conditions and diagnostic findings among reports of serious events were chest pain (56.4%), increased troponin levels (41.7%), myocarditis (40.3%), increased c-reactive protein (30.6%), and negative SARS-CoV-2 test results (29.4%) (Table 2); these findings are consistent with a diagnosis of myocarditis. Myocarditis was listed among 4.3% (397) of all VAERS reports.
COVID-19 Vaccine Safety in Adolescents Aged 12–17 Years — United States, December 14, 2020–July 16, 2021 (cdc.gov)
 
dartindanno said:
More CDC reports for vaccine events of children. 9.3% of serious events including death is not a chance I would take with my kids

Overall, 8,383 (90.7%) VAERS reports were for nonserious events, and 863 (9.3%) for serious events, including death; 609 (70.6%) reports of serious events were among males, and median age was 15 years. The most commonly reported conditions and diagnostic findings among reports of serious events were chest pain (56.4%), increased troponin levels (41.7%), myocarditis (40.3%), increased c-reactive protein (30.6%), and negative SARS-CoV-2 test results (29.4%) (Table 2); these findings are consistent with a diagnosis of myocarditis. Myocarditis was listed among 4.3% (397) of all VAERS reports.
COVID-19 Vaccine Safety in Adolescents Aged 12–17 Years — United States, December 14, 2020–July 16, 2021 (cdc.gov)
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I couldn't agree more.

THe issue here is the left is disregarding, discrediting and ignoring the VAERS data.
 
dartindanno said:
More CDC reports for vaccine events of children. 9.3% of serious events including death is not a chance I would take with my kids
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Just to clarify, the report isn't saying 9.3% of all adolescent vaccinees experienced serious events. It's 9.3% of the reports, which is a huge difference. This excerpt may provide additional context for folks:

"Among 8.9 million adolescents vaccinated during the study period, VAERS reports were received for approximately one per 1,000 vaccinees, and 90% of these reports were for nonserious conditions."

So essentially, 0.01% (or one in 10,000) of the study group vacinees during the study period reported "serious" symptoms, which by their account includes headache, fever, nausea, etc.
 
1/1000 may seem like a small number.

When I look at people I know personally who have experienced severe injuries from the vaccine, including death, it seems more significant.

What is most troubling the inability of some people to assess personal risk.
 
pittsburghracer said:
My Doctor doesn’t pester but has asked me every six months if I’m ready to get vaccinated. I say no and he drops the subject. I’ve never had a Pneumonia shot
And he asked if I would at least get that. I agreed and he was happy.
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What about the shingles vaccine, Doctor suggested I take it..... Im at that age and Shingles is some nasty **** which I could do without
 
Steve welder said:
What about the shingles vaccine, Doctor suggested I take it..... Im at that age and Shingles is some nasty **** which I could do without
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All up to you. I took the vaccine. I would rather chance whatever vaccine risks there are v/s getting Shingles. I had a friend pass away because of Shingles. I would rather jump head first into a wood chipper. Just sayin'
 
toolmanmike said:
All up to you. I took the vaccine. I would rather chance whatever vaccine risks there are v/s getting Shingles. I had a friend pass away because of Shingles. I would rather jump head first into a wood chipper. Just sayin'
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Shingles? I thought we were talking the Covid shot experiment?
 
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