installing AC in my 64 Dart

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I would like to install AC in my 64 dart but do not want to install one of the under dash units that hang below the radio. In my research I found that the perfect fit units sold by Classic Air for the later darts will not fit the 64 because the windshield wiper motor is mounted under the dash and is in the way. The later darts the wiper motor is under the hood. It seems to me that I read somewhere that this unit will fit if moved toward the kick panel and inch or so and re drilling the holes to mount the unit. Has anyone heard of doing this. How have other people accomplished this and what units have been used.
I see not issues for the part of the installation under the hood
Any and all help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Richard Kennedy
 
We installed a Classic Air on a 69 charger, that had original factory air, It worked perfect. I think they have their act together. I would try it. BTY, we had problems, called them, new parts there in 3 days. Class act.
 
Get a Vintage Air catalog for indash ideas, paper version to flip pages. Nostalgic Air Parts for engine connections and condesor sizes.
 
Some have installed a factory AC box. I know for 1965, so probably would fit 1964 too. I was tempted to buy a complete system a guy was selling for $100, but found you must cut new holes in the firewall. I decided I am OK with the under-dash unit that came with the car. One advantage is that I can change my heater core without venting my refrigerant as you must with the factory setup.
 
Note that the firewall is the same in the 1963 Dart and in the 64 dart until midyear when the v8 was introduced.

I posted this in this forum on 2-23-06:

I have a 1963 Dodge Dart GT convertible with a 225 cu in slant six.

I purchased the Classic Air system for my car and have installed all but the wiring.

Their catalog says that it's a "perfect fit" for a 1966 and up A body. Since the 63 to 66 A bodies are essentially the same, I thought I'd give it a try.

Their condenser was too wide for the narrow 63 radiator opening. All the lines are pre-bent for the 67 and up cars.

The installation kit for the compressor won't work on the 63 because it's driven by the outer part of a double pulley that's meant to replace the power steering pulley. The engine compartment is not long enough to accomodate that extra pulley. There's no way to reposition the compressor to drive off a pulley attached to the rear of harmonic balancer, like the factory air unit, because the compressor is too long and will not clear the intake manifold on the slant six.

The evaporator is configured so you lose the "summer door" on the passenger side. Doin't even consider the heater-delete summer door box because it will not fit.

The evaporator does bolt up to two of the holes in the firewall where the original heater motor once was, but the third hole will have to be drilled. I installed the evaporator with the entire dash out of the car. I think it would be nearly impossile to install it with the dash in the car. But the instructions suggest otherwise.

I solved the underhood problems by going back to the original Mopar Cool-Aire condensor, lines, V2 compressor and receiver/drier. It's a simple hook-up from that to the evaporator. Since I'm keeping the V2 compressor, I'll use R12 instead of R134a.

I haven't gotten to the wiring yet, but they assure me I'll be able to keep my oriiginal 3 knob heater/defroster controls. I hope they're right.

In the meantime, I've got a new Sanden compressor (polished) that's worthelss to me, plus brakets, and also the condensor and lines.

Installation is probably a cinch on your '71. Classic Air did warn me that I was on my own on the '63.

If I had it to do over again, I might try Vintage Air's compact unit. It's all servo controlled and much smaller in size. Maybe I could've kept the summer door on the passenger side using the heater-delete door.

--Walt Jackson
 
I sell a A/C compressor mount and drive, that uses the original factory drive pulley. It mounts a "Sanden" style compressor, and clears stock intake , Clifford, and Offie two and 4 bbl manifolds (will not work with the offie 2 one bbl manifold). Works with stock exhaust manifolds, Clifford headers, mopoar headers. With headers the compressor brace will have to be modified slightly. If interested send me a PM, and I can e-mail pics. I am not a company. I designed this to cure the problems on an early "A" body, for cars I work on, and made it available to others.
 
I would like to install AC in my 64 dart but do not want to install one of the under dash units that hang below the radio. In my research I found that the perfect fit units sold by Classic Air for the later darts will not fit the 64 because the windshield wiper motor is mounted under the dash and is in the way. The later darts the wiper motor is under the hood. It seems to me that I read somewhere that this unit will fit if moved toward the kick panel and inch or so and re drilling the holes to mount the unit. Has anyone heard of doing this. How have other people accomplished this and what units have been used.
I see not issues for the part of the installation under the hood
Any and all help would be appreciated and thanks in advance.
Richard Kennedy

Check out my DIY Aircon installation here:

http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=193496

FYI My RHD '66 also has the wiper motor under the dash.

Syed
 
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