Lower control arm pivot just spins in bushing

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MOPARMAGA

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Hey helpful fabo members,
I bought a kit that included polyurethane bushings for the lca pivot, but unfortunately I can't tighten the nut and the pivot just spins.
The car is on the ground with weight on the suspension.
I don't know what to do except throw more parts at it.
Anyone have any ideas or should I just call Bergman Auto craft.
 
I guess the instructions said just slide the bushing in the old shell, I did that by hand so I'm thinking it can't be correct
 
Typical for those poly bushings. Read this many times. Call the vendor, they know their product better than the forums do.
 
The old shell that goes around the pin must be kept on.
AND the shell inside the LCA must be kept on too.

Both shells must remain.

The pin style on the middle right with that wide oval shoulder cannot be used for Poly bushings.

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I guess the instructions said just slide the bushing in the old shell, I did that by hand so I'm thinking it can't be correct

Poly bushings should be a pretty tight fit into the outer shells. They also need to be greased with poly grease, especially if you’re not using greaseable pivot pins. They shouldn’t need a press to install, but if they’re loose you’ll need to replace the outer shells because they need to be a tight slip fit to avoid slop and premature wear.

If you have Poly or Delrin LCA bushings the pivots/pins don’t need to be torqued at ride height. Those bushings rotate on the pivot/pin, so it doesn’t matter where they get torqued.

As far as keeping the pivot/pin from spinning, I use an impact. But a lot of the aftermarket pivots come with a nylock nut, so that doesn’t always work. The factory used a crush nut. So in those cases sometimes you have to grab the pivot by the shoulder from the LCA side to keep it from spinning. If the suspension isn’t fully assembled you can slide the LCA back to get the room to grab the shoulder, don’t damage the surface the bushing rides on. With Delrin or poly bushings you can just install the pivots/pins by themselves and torque them like that, then install the LCA if you want.

Another option would be to just use a lock washer and a standard, non-locking nut. With the final torque on those nuts having them loosen up is pretty unlikely. You could use Loctite too. That way you’d be able to spin the nut on with an impact and when it hits the lock washer it should grab and not spin the pivot.
 
Poly bushings should be a pretty tight fit into the outer shells. They also need to be greased with poly grease, especially if you’re not using greaseable pivot pins. They shouldn’t need a press to install, but if they’re loose you’ll need to replace the outer shells because they need to be a tight slip fit to avoid slop and premature wear.

If you have Poly or Delrin LCA bushings the pivots/pins don’t need to be torqued at ride height. Those bushings rotate on the pivot/pin, so it doesn’t matter where they get torqued.

As far as keeping the pivot/pin from spinning, I use an impact. But a lot of the aftermarket pivots come with a nylock nut, so that doesn’t always work. The factory used a crush nut. So in those cases sometimes you have to grab the pivot by the shoulder from the LCA side to keep it from spinning. If the suspension isn’t fully assembled you can slide the LCA back to get the room to grab the shoulder, don’t damage the surface the bushing rides on. With Delrin or poly bushings you can just install the pivots/pins by themselves and torque them like that, then install the LCA if you want.

Another option would be to just use a lock washer and a standard, non-locking nut. With the final torque on those nuts having them loosen up is pretty unlikely. You could use Loctite too. That way you’d be able to spin the nut on with an impact and when it hits the lock washer it should grab and not spin the pivot.
Thanks for the reply. I didn't use one of the shells so I think it should help the nut go on better instead of spinning at the point of thread engagement.
 
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