Seat belts and HVAC

[Jarlaxle]

Ok, this thread is my first two really stupid questions:

1) When (If ever) did A bodies get integrated HVAC and lose the under-dash thing?

2) When did front 3-point belts show up, and was it the same time on all body styles?

I know most of the big changes, but the little stuff is confusing as $&^%>=$.

 

[RustyRatRod]

"I" have never seen an A body without at least the A/C vents under the dash. I think the 3 point belts were sometime in the late 60s.

 

[pishta]

68? shoulder belt mandate

 

[Jarlaxle]

They went from the 2-piece belts to integrated 3-point in...74, right?

You mean they used the under-dash setup to 76?

 

[toolmanmike]

Factory a/c had the under dash vents. 66 and newer for sure. Chime in if earlier. Dealer installed Chrysler Airtemp or aftermarket had the shin buster unit.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Factory a/c had the vents. 66 and newer for sure. Chime in if earlier. Dealer installed Chrysler Airtemp or aftermarket had the shin buster unit.

You lost me.

 

[toolmanmike]

You lost me.

Factory air had under dash vents and dealer installed had the knee knocker or shin buster unit . Let me find a couple pics.

 

[Mike69cuda]

Under dash ac vents were from at least 67 to 76. Heater / ac unit changed in 72 or 73 away from push button design.

 

[toolmanmike]

Here's 2 70's. My blue one is a dealer installed Airtemp unit.

 

[toolmanmike]

Here's a 66 with the factory installed a/c

 

[MoparMike1974]

I think it was 68 when they started the shoulder belt. It was a separate belt that could be unclipped and hung in the ceiling when not used. Most of these never got used. I believe 74 was the first year for a true shoulder belt.

 

[67Dart273]

Well "under dash" vents is not the same as "under dash air." The pre 67? 66? cars had a separate unit for ac under the dash. 67/ later were integrated into the heater/ ac as one unit, it's just that the DUCT and vents were under the dash

I'm sure toolmanmike is right. "Dealer" is not really the same as factory.

On a side note, my 70- 440-6 RR had an aftermarket "knee knocker" unit and I liked it better than factory--was easy to get out of the way if you needed access, and much simpler.

 

[bcschief]

I think 65 was the first integrated heater/ac units in A bodies, seat belt I am not sure the first generation 3-point seat belts had the removable shoulder belt that folded up and clipped in the headliner, I would think 1970 for the seat belts.

 

[65 Dartman]

I think 65 was the first integrated heater/ac units in A bodies.

bcschief is correct- 65 factory AC used the vents under the dash

 

[Mike69cuda]

I think 68 was the first year for the shoulder belts. I had an very early 68 barracuda that did not have them.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Under dash ac vents were from at least 67 to 76. Heater / ac unit changed in 72 or 73 away from push button design.

That might be the change I was thinking of...