Today, dollar for dollar, is the 318 faster than the 340 ???

would you agree ?

  • yep, the 318 wins if buying and building for under 3k

    Votes: 48 41.7%

  • Nope, the 340 always has and always will beat the 318

    Votes: 57 49.6%

  • Actually, never thought about it like this... Good Point !

    Votes: 10 8.7%
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RustyRatRod said:
That's an argument I've not heard. The lead was introduced for cooling and lubricating purposes, I do KNOW that. That's why we got hardened valve seats and stellite faced valves after the reduction and elimination of lead from gasoline.

All of the health reasons are all I've ever heard about why lead was removed. I'll not argue because I don't know of any other reasons.
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Didn't lead help plug up catalytic converters ?
 
RustyRatRod said:
Again, I agree 100% with your original point and probably more so now.....that said, if you paint a box small enough, you can make a Briggs and Stratton your hero, if that's what you want.
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Dont even go there, I'd take a Clinton engine over a briggs any day buddy!
 
RustyRatRod said:
Again, I agree 100% with your original point and probably more so now.....that said, if you paint a box small enough, you can make a Briggs and Stratton your hero, if that's what you want.
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4 hp Briggs & Stratton vs a 5 hp Tecumseh... who wins on a 20 dollar budget



:lol:

I thought a 3k engine build is really not a "small box". In fact, I don't have a 3k motor in any of my classics..... so to me, it's a BIG Box !!! :)
 
mygasser said:
but the average guy isn't trying to build a ''340 hp'' spec motor, he's trying to build a fast 318 'cos that's what he has. it's not all about the 340, the world doesn't revolve around that motor despite what some would have us believe :thumbsup:
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You're right, I suppose it couldn't with the lack of availability of that engine.

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318willrun said:
4 hp Briggs & Stratton vs a 5 hp Tecumseh... who wins on a 20 dollar budget



:lol:

I thought a 3k engine build is really not a "small box". In fact, I don't have a 3k motor in any of my classics..... so to me, it's a BIG Box !!! :)
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What I meant by that is all of your constricting rules. You know, the gotta buy it and not already have it. If somebody already HAS a good 340 core and all it needs is a basic rering and rebearing, by your little box, they're disqualified.

I GET the point of your post and agree. But it's slanted to your favor right away. Because we all know an already existing good core 340 with 3K thrown at it would eat all 318 commers for lunch.
 
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318willrun said:
4 hp Briggs & Stratton vs a 5 hp Tecumseh... who wins on a 20 dollar budget



:lol:

I thought a 3k engine build is really not a "small box". In fact, I don't have a 3k motor in any of my classics..... so to me, it's a BIG Box !!! :)
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Honda! Oh, sorry, you didn't say $200 budget.
 
RustyRatRod said:
What I meant by that is all of your constricting rules. You know, the gotta buy it and not already have it. If somebody already HAS a good 340 core and all it needs is a basic rering and rebearing, by your little box, they're disqualified.

I GET the point of your post and agree. But it's slanted to your favor right away. Because we all know an already existing good core 340 with 3K thrown at it would eat all 310 commers for lunch.
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But when newbies come to this site with their 318 car and limited budget, and some tell them to "get a 340"... they have to buy one....

And your premise is really flawed because why would ANYONE use the 340 when the '69 440 6 pack is right behind the 340 in the same guy's garage.. !! :poke:
 
RustyRatRod said:
Yuck.
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I have a 6 HP Tecumseh on an old AMF Polar bear snow blower that is a few years newer than my Dart Swinger LOL! Speaking of budget I bought the piece for 50 dollars rebuilt the engine and changed belts and it works. I may have k=just under $200 in it.
 
318willrun said:
But when newbies come to this site with their 318 car, and some tell them to "get a 340"... they have to buy one....

And your premise is really flawed because why would ANYONE use the 340 when the '69 440 6 pack is right behind the 340 in the same guy's garage.. !! :poke:
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lol I guess.
 
RustyRatRod said:
What I meant by that is all of your constricting rules. You know, the gotta buy it and not already have it. If somebody already HAS a good 340 core and all it needs is a basic rering and rebearing, by your little box, they're disqualified.

I GET the point of your post and agree. But it's slanted to your favor right away. Because we all know an already existing good core 340 with 3K thrown at it would eat all 318 commers for lunch.
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I agree. With a a 340 core and three grand you'd get that thing running real good. may even have money left. This is assuming you have everything from intake to exhaust manifolds which are high flowing. But yes the scenario is biased and one way leaning, but look at what we've learned here...:) ( no I'm not scrapping my 340s to build a 5.2 Magnum, but if I were so inclined that's what I'd do because of the magnum heads.)
 
I don't know $3000 would still be limiting a 340 I think? Unless you already had some really good X orJ heads laying with the 340 block.

The smaller 5.2 magnum needs less head . And responds great to bolt on mods. Heck do a $3000 forced induction setup on a 5.2 magnum and see 400hp with the right valve springs
 
jammied said:
I don't know $3000 would still be limiting a 340 I think? Unless you already had some really good X orJ heads laying with the 340 block.

The smaller 5.2 magnum needs less head . And responds great to bolt on mods. Heck do a $3000 forced induction setup on a 5.2 magnum and see 400hp with the right valve springs
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Why only 400? Engine masters got 600 out of a chevy 305, with a monster nitrous setup. $2000 in a 318, make 300hp n.a. and hit it with a 200 shot? Easy mid elevens in a decent car.
Still under $3000.
 
33IMP said:
Why only 400? Engine masters got 600 out of a chevy 305, with a monster nitrous setup. $2000 in a 318, make 300hp n.a. and hit it with a 200 shot? Easy mid elevens in a decent car.
Still under $3000.
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Lol I just noticed a vortech kit for the magnum 5.2/5.9 on ebay everything except the super charger $1750 shipped a p2 super charger about $650. Bang for the buck
 
Sublime one said:
So I guess I shouldn’t post the pix of my Gen 3 Hemi in my A body either? That is the beauty of this hobby. When folks dog mine at a car show I just shrug and reply, that’s why your key don’t fit!

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gen 3 hemi does not weigh more than an la so no penalty , it's a good combo . i had a 440 dart it handled like **** , i'm not into straight lines , i like taking my cars on backroadsand tracks with turns . to each his own , do whatever the **** you want it's a free country , for now
 
318willrun said:
4 hp Briggs & Stratton vs a 5 hp Tecumseh... who wins on a 20 dollar budget



:lol:

I thought a 3k engine build is really not a "small box". In fact, I don't have a 3k motor in any of my classics..... so to me, it's a BIG Box !!! :)
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Ok that’s funny! I vote 4HP Briggs! When I was a young aspiring gear head me and a buddy built a go kart around a 4 HP Briggs. Swear that thing would go an easy 100mph. Down side we did not install brakes for test drive. Kind of like an open header blast around town on a fresh rebuild. I crashed it into the side of the barn and it caught on fire. To a farm kid a barn fire is very very bad. I was wearing my prize possession Bart Starr jersey and had to put flames out with it. I was crushed.
 
Nat said:
gen 3 hemi does not weigh more than an la so no penalty , it's a good combo . i had a 440 dart it handled like **** , i'm not into straight lines , i like taking my cars on backroadsand tracks with turns . to each his own , do whatever the **** you want it's a free country , for now
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Roger that, I fought and bled for it!
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Starting from scratch with nothing, the only difference is a $400 (or less) 340 block. So now the 340 is at $1600 and the 318 is at $2000. If the money is moved to $2500 instead your window just closed. Doesn’t matter if you have a complete 318 because you can use the giveaway 318 crank/rods in the 340 and get the junk pistons. Now the playing field is level, use same heads-intake-cam-carb, ($2500 vs $2100) will $400 make up that 23 cubes? Personally I wouldn’t waste my money on either, that $2500 would go into a 360, cheap to find and much less than a stroker crank for the 318. My 5.9 has all the good stuff and I’ve got maybe $600 in it and will be above 450 hp.
 
Nat said:
gen 3 hemi does not weigh more than an la so no penalty , it's a good combo . i had a 440 dart it handled like **** , i'm not into straight lines , i like taking my cars on backroadsand tracks with turns . to each his own , do whatever the **** you want it's a free country , for now
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was there any need for that last statement? we all have opinions but don't need to abused for them. if you meant no offence then cool but maybe read what you type before posting as it sure sounded offensive :thumbsup:
 
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