VR-1 or Brad Penn?

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68SRVIVR

Rick/'68 Barracuda 340-S
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In my '68 stock 340, been running Valvoline VR-1 (non synthetic) 10w30
for the past couple seasons (April-Oct) in L.I., NY.
Thinking of trying Brad Penn (10w30, 20w50...)
Any thoughts, or opinions?
 
You want to make sure its the VR-1 that says "Not for street use" on it. I think it only comes in 20/50 and straight 30wt. The other VR-1 is a little better than standard SM grade oils but still has to conform to SAE SM limits on zink and engineering standards.
 
My local speed shop is a MOPAR house. I was asking about Brad Penn vs VR-1 and walked out of the place with 6 qts of the Penn. The oil in the engine now is what was used to break in the cam. Will be interesting to see how it looks when I remove it.
 
airwoofer said:
My local speed shop is a MOPAR house. I was asking about Brad Penn vs VR-1 and walked out of the place with 6 qts of the Penn. The oil in the engine now is what was used to break in the cam. Will be interesting to see how it looks when I remove it.
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The Not for street use is the equivilent of Brad Penn Joe Gibbs, etc. They are all full of zink. The only reason they are "not for street use" is cars with catalytic convertors may have issues with convertor damage due to the high zink content getting into the exhaust system in normal running. It is fine for any engine without cats and is preferred for aggressive flat tappet cams. These are NOT SAE certified oils therefore are not subject to the EPA limits on zink. If the oil you buy (including the VR-1 that carries the SAE gold shield) says it's certified to meet or exceed SM grade it does not have much zink. It will have other anti scuff packages, but it doesnt have much more, and it won't have zink, because in order to carry that SM label it can't.
 
NSL oil comes 10W-30 also.

Amazon has the best price shipped right to your door.

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[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-VV851-Racing-STREET-Bottles/dp/B000GAP42I/ref=sr_1_sc_7?ie=UTF8&s=automotive&qid=1300237826&sr=1-7-spell"]Amazon.com: Valvoline VV851 Racing 20W50 NOT STREET LEGAL Motor Oil, Pack of Six 1 Quart Bottles: Automotive[/ame]
 
IIRC I get the VR1 non-street for $6 a bottle at Car Quest locally. Been a little while but 6-6.50 sounds about right and it comes in six packs.
 
That $40 is with free shipping, no sales tax so more like just under $7 a quart.

No driving to the store either UPS brings it right to up to my garage. With tracking numbers I know what day it be
 
dodge freak said:
That $40 is with free shipping, no sales tax so more like just under $7 a quart.

No driving to the store either UPS brings it right to up to my garage. With tracking numbers I know what day it be
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ok so 7 bucks... vs almost 5 for brad penn... granted the penn can be rad to get your hands on sometimes...
 
So, if I go with the VR1 (conventional) for my stock 340-S...should I use 10W30 or 20W50?
Again, car is only driven from April - Nov.
Summer gets pretty hot here in L.I., NY!
 
Conventional VR1 (API rated on the bottle) is no better than any other API rated oil. It's fine if you've had no issues in the past. If you are deeply concerned about it then run the not for street use VR1. It IS legal for use in vehicles without catalytic convertors.
 
mine motor was broken in with the gibbs 10w30 but my machinist told me i can run the vr1 10w30 and comp additive with the flat tappet cam
 
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