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Assuming eveerything ontop is oem, Year and CR?

The 80 from what I gather makes it vague. Its casted under 5 and 7 with cw rotation. Don't believe the exhaust pipe, the harmonic balancer and accessories are on the left.

The starter is on the other side and isn't Mopar.

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Starter, and oil filter and head EGR? delete kit on other side.

Yes, the starter extends half way block length. Whips it over good with a pair of 12s.

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Cool :popcorn:

Waiting on the brain trust on this one.

318 chrysler Industrial

I'm looking for info (HP, comp ratio) on a 318 Industrial engine. It was in a combine,tag # is LH318-876, serial# is E-266751. Any one know of a web site with this info?
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Industrial? Like the fords?

I haven't removed enough grease oil and grit to find head #s
 
This isn't factory. The international 6 cyl Hough used in their 50 series was removed and this 318 stuffed in it.

Retained International factory starter and flywheel/accessories gear drive with a custom bell housing.

I'm sure the engine came out of a truck.

Unless there's stamped srerial numbers in the block somewhere to narrow this further?
 
When you say, "truck" do you mean 1/2T ish through 1T ish? I see nothing here that smells "heavy truck." They made both SBM and RB engines in usually called -3 (dash 3) that could be quite oddball, and typically used the large 18mm tapered seat Ford style plugs

Some industrial engines used 8 bolt cranks, instead of 6 commonly found in cars and light trucks
 
Well, it's obviously an LA 318. @Garrett Ellison is really sharp with this kinda stuff. They made a gazillion different Chrysler engines for various other uses beside transportation, so there's no telling. But it's definitely an LA engine and a 318 by the casting number. Maybe Garrett can give some more clues.
 
Industrial/Heavy truck, possibly MilSpec.- looks similar to the setup I remember in our Sherriff's Dept.'s old surplus Gage Ranger (AKA "PeaceKeeper") armored vehicle.
 
They used 'em in Sno Cats (spelliing?) too. I rode in one in some DEEP snow up to Mt Spokane one winter.
 
You may find an IH "Binder" mark cast on that block somewhere. IH cast some 318s for chrysler in a short partnership during the (I'm thinking) mid to late seventies for the industrial/marine line. Clean the front of the block below the drivers side cylinder head to see if any numbers are stamped in. But I can't say I've ever seen a 318 transplanted into one of these, yet!
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I would imagine it does pretty well in that application, though. Maybe a little extra weight and I would imagine more torque to boot.
 
Professor Fate said:
So this is in a Payloader? Interesting...
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Sure is. I don't think Mopar used an International starter on an LA that's over half the length of the block?

Apparently the rotation wasn't going to work on other side, there's a torch hole in the custom bell housing plate where the idea was scratched off, and decided it was easier to make a remote oil filter plate on the other side. I honestly don't know what's all going on with the flex plate and accessory drive/charge pump. I'm not wanting to pull that apart. I considered replacing the starter while I'm this far into it, but it looks like I need to lift the engine to make clearance from the frame. I considered just cutting the frame and rewelding it too. Its just standard 8" channel iron. At the same time there's no issues, so maybe I shouldn't fix it if its not broken.

The best part, this is a 2nd 318LA swap into a wheeled payloader. The 1st one went into an old Allis Chalmers TL12 when the little Hercules diesel over-revved itself after something went goofy in the injector pump while I ran in for more beer.

The 318LA in the AC payloader story goes as dads lovely wife smashed his 69 roadrunner to the point the vehicle was garbage, so he pulled the engine and used that. Shortly after he mocked it into a 8 ton machine and thought it was finally safe, she backs up into a tree and pushed a 5" hole through the radiator.


Shortly after that swap, and disaster, the International 6cyl threw a rod, and the AC swap turned out so nice, he did it again with this Hough 50 series. Unfortunately I don't know what exactly this LA in the Hough came out of. Dad always spoke it had 100k miles on it when he did the swap back in the 80s, and this Hough isn't a light machine, and it's made the family alot of money moving material the past 30 years. Everyone ran the **** out of it and loved running it because its got the drott 4in1 clam bucket.

The 2nd swap I assumed came out of a truck, but that's just a guess.

Yes, that's a gm 55amp Remy external alternator. I'm not sure if oil bath air breathers were stock on LAs?

Its a unique swap, and honestly its never ever been underpowered. It'll keep turning all 4 wheels in sugar sand up to the planetaries while loading the hydraulics to the max, and she keeps on purring at a fast idle.

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chorty55 said:
The best part, this is a 2nd 318LA swap into a wheeled payloader. The 1st one went into an old Allis Chalmers TL12 when the little Hercules diesel over-revved itself after something went goofy in the injector pump while I ran in for more beer.
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i love everything about these two sentences.

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this would appear to confirm a 69 motor (as told earlier about the road runner) or at least that's pre-70 LA waterpump, and what appears to pulley and dampener. if there is a timing tab cast into the cover on the pass side it's 68/9.
 
junkyardhero said:
i love everything about these two sentences.

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this would appear to confirm a 69 motor (as told earlier about the road runner) or at least that's pre-70 LA waterpump, and what appears to pulley and dampener. if there is a timing tab cast into the cover on the pass side it's 68/9.
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1st photo for the timing mark?


And here's a couple pics of the 1st 318 swap idea in the tl12. The water pump inlet is opposite oddly?


Much more room for the oil filter, as he kept the dodge starter on the other side

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Actually, I wonder if the TL12 block swap is newer era? The water pump inlet is where the timing marks are compared to the Hough.

Water Pumps are different. Which way is who's date?
 
chorty55 said:
Actually, I wonder if the TL12 block swap is newer era? The water pump inlet is where the timing marks are compared to the Hough.

Water Pumps are different. Which way is who's date?
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Pump inlet on driver's side normally means a 1969 and earlier engine, on passenger side is 1970 and later.
 
Hehehhe. What clock?

Hour meter was disconnected back in the 70s, before the swap.

Engine had 100k miles on it when installed back in the 1980s.

I ran it and worked the living dogshit out of this used engine burning 50-80 gallons of fuel a day for 25 years. Find me a Mopar man that burns that much fuel in his pavement princess?

It runs fine. Don't judge the book by the cover.

Its been sitting because the accessory drive gear on the machine side is stripped to drive the pump input shaft. So I need to relocate the hydraulic pump.
 
Here's the closest hour meter I could find that's kinda accurate.
Pins and bushings for the main arms at the bucket.

It needs hoses and tires for sure. I'm not worried about the sloppy pins to clamshell cars and junk.

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