wheelz 63 dart gt
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This connects to my transmission pan. Can some one tell me what is is and where does the other end go
What is this part
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66aCUDA
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Back off a little and give me a side view. Is that actually mounted next to the starter.
Frank
Frank
no1newb
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i have no idea, but as a guess, it could be a pump for the trans cooler.
given, ive only had a 4sp, not an auto.
given, ive only had a 4sp, not an auto.
shafer
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could it be some kind of aftermarket trans filter
wheelz 63 dart gt
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Here are sme better pics
justme
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looks like an external trans filter to me
66aCUDA
/6 Racer
I believe it to be aftermarket. What I am not sure. Where does the other end go. As stated before might be some sort of trans cooler. Looks like an A/C dryer to me.
Frank
Frank
wheelz 63 dart gt
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the other end does go to the trans. where can i hook this end up, or should i disconnect and plug it. It does not have this part in my book, so you are right, it is aftermarket i think
tiltsix
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There is A 62 Valiant in A salvage yard near me that has that ,It goes into trans cooler in rediator.
That is a tranmistion filter, my 63 Valiant had one, these 63 and back early A's had a external trans filter, NAPA sold me a replacment from a tractor of some kind.
wheelz 63 dart gt
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should i hook it back up to my radiator? I can not find that part in my 63 service manual.
camd64
Remember Landy
wheelz 63 dart gt
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Holy ****! 125 for that part. Thanx, that was cool.
camd64
Remember Landy
one more http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Vint...tZVintageQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories
probably somewhere even cheaper or you can find one that with some modifications will work at your local parts store. Either way you will want one installed.
probably somewhere even cheaper or you can find one that with some modifications will work at your local parts store. Either way you will want one installed.
wheelz 63 dart gt
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Thanx Man! I appreciate it!
Wow, That one looks like the fluid filter I got from NAPA camd64 :happy10:
About the same price, I think I paid about $30 . that is a must do for wheelz 63 dart gt Trans line.
wheelz 63 dart gt
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So i hook into my radiator?
YES.make up a line ( 5/16) to the rad trans cooler fitting. Trace the lines to and from the trans to the rad and back to the trans. FYI they make universal inline filters in the $6 to $20 range. OR you can change your pan to the 64 and newer 904 pan with a dimpled pan floor to clear the in pan filter.64 and 65 trannys use a 2 port filter pickup. I do not have the number but the last one I got was from CarQuest Auto Parts.
wheelz 63 dart gt
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Got it! Ive got the rad out right now, and the timing cover off. No timing tab. So i am static timing. Ive got to put the timing cover back on when i get the new gasket,put the pulley on and rig a temp gas tank. Ive the gas tank out for a cleaning and a painting. Im waiting on the new sending unit gasket. She has not been started in im not sure how long. the motor has a fairly new rebuilld. im thinking 5000 miles on it. Im not sure though. some one rolled back the odometer so im guessing. ive only had her a couple of months. so i am doing every thing so i know its done right. I cant wait to fire her up for the first time.
wheelz 63 dart gt
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the seller did not havemuch info to give me about her. just the motor was rebuilt, and she didnt know why it didnt start.
A furd friend of mine had a 289 rebuilt and it would not start after all the work and money he put in it, I drove to his shop and put some 30 wt oil in an oil can and squirted about a tea spoon full of oil in each spark plug hole :-D
Yes they thought I was wasting my time till they it the key and it spun over about two times and fired right up :-D
No compression until oil hit the rings :read2: we had a big laugh and I have told this true story a few times. :happy10:
You may what to keep this in mind when you get ready to fire it up :happy10:
Yes they thought I was wasting my time till they it the key and it spun over about two times and fired right up :-D
No compression until oil hit the rings :read2: we had a big laugh and I have told this true story a few times. :happy10:
You may what to keep this in mind when you get ready to fire it up :happy10:
64drtGt
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All this information is from a post by SlantSixDan on slantsix.org
http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=208914&highlight=external+filter#208914
The 1960-'63 Torqueflite automatics used an external, in-line transmission fluid filter as an optional accessory in '60 and '61, standard equipment in '62-'63, not a flat in-pan filter such as the 1964-up transmissions used. In place of the in-pan flat filter, the early cars had a metal screen. If your car is so equipped, you will find the black, canister-shaped filter clamped to the engine block right at the level of the oil pan rail, below and ahead of the starter motor, with the trans fluid pipes threaded into each end of the canister. These canister-type filters are no longer manufactured. New Old Stock items can sometimes be found, but are usually quite costly. A replacement for this canister-type filter can be had (while supplies last, which won't be long) from Pat Blais, [email protected] . You can without much difficulty convert to the '64-up in-pan filter, making future transmission service easier and less costly.
There are a few different in-pan filters that will physically fit, but on a pre-1966 transmission, you need a filter with two fluid ports in it. The '66-up filters have only one, and if you use them on a '65 or earlier transmission, you'll starve the rear pump and damage it; it'll get noisy.
For this project, you'll need:
•A 1964-1965 transmission filter (with two ports). NAPA or ATP 19715 or 17956 trans filter/gasket kit contains the 2-port filter. Other numbers include Wix 58656 and Fram (yuck) FT-1015A.
•A 1964-up transmission pan or a brand-new pan. Nice new pans with unwarped rails can be had from the dealer under p/n 52118 779AB, and they even include a spiffy magnet to catch metallic shavings. Whether you go that route or install a used '64-up pan, save yourself a bunch of current and future hassle: Discard the floppy cork or rubber pan gasket that comes with the filter kit. Instead, from the Chrysler dealer get the really nice double-seal, reusable rigid pan gasket P/N 4295 875AC. (Note these part numbers are for A904 transmissions, which have a roughly square-shaped transmission pan with one corner cut off. The larger A727 transmissions use a different pan and a different pan gasket.)
The reason why you need to change the pan is that when they changed to the in-pan Dacron filter for '64, they put a circular depression in the pan to provide sufficient clearance between the pan and the Dacron filter, which is thicker than the '63 and earlier pickup screen. This is why my '62 has "dropout" problems when cold (Dacron filter w/'62 pan); I really need to fix it 'cause it's not good to starve the pump for fluid like that.
http://www.slantsix.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=208914&highlight=external+filter#208914
The 1960-'63 Torqueflite automatics used an external, in-line transmission fluid filter as an optional accessory in '60 and '61, standard equipment in '62-'63, not a flat in-pan filter such as the 1964-up transmissions used. In place of the in-pan flat filter, the early cars had a metal screen. If your car is so equipped, you will find the black, canister-shaped filter clamped to the engine block right at the level of the oil pan rail, below and ahead of the starter motor, with the trans fluid pipes threaded into each end of the canister. These canister-type filters are no longer manufactured. New Old Stock items can sometimes be found, but are usually quite costly. A replacement for this canister-type filter can be had (while supplies last, which won't be long) from Pat Blais, [email protected] . You can without much difficulty convert to the '64-up in-pan filter, making future transmission service easier and less costly.
There are a few different in-pan filters that will physically fit, but on a pre-1966 transmission, you need a filter with two fluid ports in it. The '66-up filters have only one, and if you use them on a '65 or earlier transmission, you'll starve the rear pump and damage it; it'll get noisy.
For this project, you'll need:
•A 1964-1965 transmission filter (with two ports). NAPA or ATP 19715 or 17956 trans filter/gasket kit contains the 2-port filter. Other numbers include Wix 58656 and Fram (yuck) FT-1015A.
•A 1964-up transmission pan or a brand-new pan. Nice new pans with unwarped rails can be had from the dealer under p/n 52118 779AB, and they even include a spiffy magnet to catch metallic shavings. Whether you go that route or install a used '64-up pan, save yourself a bunch of current and future hassle: Discard the floppy cork or rubber pan gasket that comes with the filter kit. Instead, from the Chrysler dealer get the really nice double-seal, reusable rigid pan gasket P/N 4295 875AC. (Note these part numbers are for A904 transmissions, which have a roughly square-shaped transmission pan with one corner cut off. The larger A727 transmissions use a different pan and a different pan gasket.)
The reason why you need to change the pan is that when they changed to the in-pan Dacron filter for '64, they put a circular depression in the pan to provide sufficient clearance between the pan and the Dacron filter, which is thicker than the '63 and earlier pickup screen. This is why my '62 has "dropout" problems when cold (Dacron filter w/'62 pan); I really need to fix it 'cause it's not good to starve the pump for fluid like that.
dane1968
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I have the same external filter(orange) on my 63 GT.There also is a filter in the transmission. I went to Autozone today, ordered a Champion/AZ Filters #416461 T414 Transmission Filter kit. Is this correct for the 1963 A904?
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