fratzog lover
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3 things that worry me in the "for sale". New member, low post count, Only post to sell. That doesnt mean they are no good, just means my antenna go up.
ok just so its fair for the other side just because I (or others) don't have a paypal account, and use money orders,( I hate giving money away, just to be able to get my money from them) doesn't make us scammers. to be fair about it, just sayingLately, we have seen several people come to FABO trying to scam our members.
Usually, they will respond to "Wanted to Buy" ads by private message, giving an email address to respond to. They usually have recently joined FABO and have few or no posts.
If you respond they wont want payment by PayPal, and will say their PayPal account or dormant or something like that. They will almost always ask for a money order for payment.
I cannot advice strong enough that you don't send a money order to someone you don't know well. Sending a money order is like sending cash, there is very little you can do in the event you are scammed. This is why the scammers ask for money orders. They are easy to cash and all but impossible to stop payment on or do anything with if you get scammed. Think of it like leaving $100 bill on a bar and going to the bathroom. There is a good chance it wont be there where you come back and nobody will be able to help you.
I cannot stress strongly enough that you should not use Money Orders unless you know the person your sending the money to fairly well. In my personal opinion, the safest way is to use PayPal for all online transactions unless you know the person your sending money to. Its not perfect, but its the safest in my opinion.
We do what we can to protect FABO members, but in instances like this we cannot do a lot without your help. If you get a PM from someone like described above, let a staff member know right away and we will look into the member.
Thank you for listening.
Joeychgo, Admin
ADDITIONAL INFO:
Scammers will usually ask you for the following info from the money order:
DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM!
- Sender's Name:
- Reference #:
- Amount Sent:
A scammer can take this info and pick up the money from anywhere in the world that sells those money orders. If they live at the address they gave you they don't need this info.
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"ok just so its fair for the other side just because I (or others) don't have a paypal account, and use money orders,( I hate giving money away, just to be able to get my money from them) doesn't make us scammers. to be fair about it, just saying"
x2...I feel the same way
Unfortunately paypal has too many loopholes for buyers and basically no protection for sellers. Just one more reason I refuse to use itUp here a money order costs more than PayPal fees and ive personally had damned near perfect counterfeit money orders. PayPal is by far the better choice between the 2 imo.
Cash is king though!
Unfortunately paypal has too many loopholes for buyers and basically no protection for sellers. Just one more reason I refuse to use it
ask for a usps postal money order. You can cash them at the post office
If I'm not mistaken,the post office is required to cash a US Postal Money order. If they don't you can file a formal complaint.
I went through reading about scammers on this thread. As I tend to be overly cautious, most info I pretty much already knew. BUT... now I think I will have a hard time selling or buying. I do not have paypal. I dont use debit or credit cards. I use cash. Yeah Ima old fashioned old fart anda country hick to boot. I do use computer and internet frequently - high tech redneck?Lately, we have seen several people come to FABO trying to scam our members.
Usually, they will respond to "Wanted to Buy" ads by private message, giving an email address to respond to. They usually have recently joined FABO and have few or no posts.
If you respond they wont want payment by PayPal, and will say their PayPal account or dormant or something like that. They will almost always ask for a money order for payment.
I cannot advice strong enough that you don't send a money order to someone you don't know well. Sending a money order is like sending cash, there is very little you can do in the event you are scammed. This is why the scammers ask for money orders. They are easy to cash and all but impossible to stop payment on or do anything with if you get scammed. Think of it like leaving $100 bill on a bar and going to the bathroom. There is a good chance it wont be there where you come back and nobody will be able to help you.
I cannot stress strongly enough that you should not use Money Orders unless you know the person your sending the money to fairly well. In my personal opinion, the safest way is to use PayPal for all online transactions unless you know the person your sending money to. Its not perfect, but its the safest in my opinion.
We do what we can to protect FABO members, but in instances like this we cannot do a lot without your help. If you get a PM from someone like described above, let a staff member know right away and we will look into the member.
Thank you for listening.
Joeychgo, Admin
ADDITIONAL INFO:
Scammers will usually ask you for the following info from the money order:
DO NOT GIVE IT TO THEM!
- Sender's Name:
- Reference #:
- Amount Sent:
A scammer can take this info and pick up the money from anywhere in the world that sells those money orders. If they live at the address they gave you they don't need this info.
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Joey (the owner of this site) does a very good job and figuring out multiple ID's on this site and shuts them down....Also the feedback system on this site helps tremendously.....Also, I don't use paypal either....I am old fashioned......snail mail...as some call it......I use money orders for both buying and selling.....I have completed hundreds of transactions on this site....even though my feedback only shows about 50....not everyone leaves feedback or knows how to.....Yeah, some buyers wont use anything but paypal....that is their choice.....it is mine also not to use paypal's service......As far as Walmart money transfers go, you are correct.....They are very safe and instant....I have done it numerous times....... I just had one transaction where the guy didn't feel secure sending a money order so he did a Walmart to Walmart money transfer......I picked the payment up at my local Walmart within minutes......the buyer messages you with a 6 digit pin number that walmart gives him when he makes the money deposit......you tell them the pin number, and yes the receiver of the money has to provide photo ID and the amount of the transaction ....Also, sometimes the senders name too.....Walmart then pays you in cash....trouble free....and yes there are plenty of Cameras in Walmart.....In my opinion though they are a little pricy....for sending 1.00 to 50.00 I think it cost 4.50.....51.00 to 500.00 I think it costs about 9.00.....A postal M.O. and stamp costs about 2 bucks.....but to each their own.......just my 2 cents....not looking for an argument
It's two different arguments discussing buying on FABO and selling here. With reference to cammers who SELL on FABO: Those of you who are "cash only" have no recourse to the seller who gives you (the buyer) nothing or not what you thought what you were buying. It would be idiotic to put cash in an envelope and mail it to a stranger. Walmart and western union are the same thing as sending cash. Paypal does tend to favor the buyer over the seller so that's the time to use it. Regular credit cards if the buyer will take them can do chargebacks if the seller rips you off. Postal money orders are harder to get back on a fraud claim. It's important to look at the sellers background and don't spend more than you can afford to lose.
and I have a hard time believing this statement ive received many international money orders from Canada not saying you're wrong, but probably misinformedIt really sucks that we still cant do elecrtonic money transfers across the border.
I have no choice but to paypal.
But from now on its people i know that are straight shooters.
My wife works for the Royal Bank. I cannot send you an e-mail money transfer if you reside in the U.S.A.and I have a hard time believing this statement ive received many international money orders from Canada not saying you're wrong, but probably misinformed
I was referring to your statement about having no choice but to paypal the rest I agree withMy wife works for the Royal Bank. I cannot send you an e-mail money transfer if you reside in the U.S.A.
I can pop a money order in the mail,payable in us funds.