1972 Plymouth Valiant 4 door Auto Slant 6

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ESMSpartanGarage said:
The manifold I now have doesn’t have it.

So am I screwed? I put a reman carb on!
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So you're saying that the circled part is missing from your manifold?

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You could get this electric choke kit from eBay, but it requires the screw holes in the manifold to fasten it, if not the actual well.

Or do you mean something else?


Why did you put on a reman carb.? What was wrong with the old one?

You didn't send the old one back, did you?


– Eric
 
I could swear on my old manifold that was OPEN. I have that fitting and the other stuff that was in that hole was rotted out.

I thought the carb was a potential issue. The old one has a core charge but I have NOT sent yet.
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
I could swear on my old manifold that was OPEN.
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Shouldn't be. It's just a cast-in bowl.


ESMSpartanGarage said:
I have that fitting and the other stuff that was in that hole was rotted out.
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So you need the proper choke spring assembly. They vary by year, so make sure you get the right one. Or get the electric choke linked above.


ESMSpartanGarage said:
I thought the carb was a potential issue. The old one has a core charge but I have NOT sent yet.
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The carb is always a potential issue, and a carb that hasn't been run since 1985 definitely needs a rebuild, but a rebuild kit is a lot cheaper than buying a new carburetor, and if you rebuild it yourself, you know it's done right.

If the carb that was on it is original, then you should keep it because it is set up correctly for your engine. If you install a rebuilt carb, you are essentially guaranteeing that there will be at least one thing wrong with it, as they are assembled from bins of used parts, with minimal tolerances and standards.

The original carburetor should have a little stamped aluminum tag on one airhorn screw with a number, and that number should correspond to the appropriate number in the service or parts manual.

– Eric
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
I could swear on my old manifold that was OPEN. I have that fitting and the other stuff that was in that hole was rotted out.

I thought the carb was a potential issue. The old one has a core charge but I have NOT sent yet.
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Some of the early 70s model choke stoves WERE open to the exhaust. @slantsixdan was just confirming this recently. Just use an appropriate choke stove for that recess and your choke will work fine.
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
I could swear on my old manifold that was OPEN.
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The '70-'72 exhaust manifolds did have an open hole at the top of the choke tower on № 5 runner. That setup is problematic (exhaust leaks from a no-longer-available gasket, etc). All the new manifolds have the '73-up style of cast-in pocket at the top of the choke tower. Put on a № 1231 electric choke kit and you'll be all set with a better-than-factory, fully-adjustable choke.

Wise of you not to send in your original carb as a core; "remanufactured" carburetors are notoriously bad, but there's not much in the way of viable alternatives any more, so you're kind of stuck hoping and praying…and holding onto the original carburetor in case you will have to send it to someone qualified (such as Jon Hargrove at The Carburetor Shop) for a full refurbishment—the kind that goes well beyond what you can do at home with a carb kit.
 
MDchanic said:
Shouldn't be. It's just a cast-in bowl.
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Wow. I wasn't aware that they had two years of a giant open exhaust leak closed by a flimsy piece of sheetmetal that is pretty much guaranteed to rust away – sounds like a "Better Idea™" worthy of Dearborn.

Sorry for telling you the wrong thing.

– Eric
 
You've still got a real high school auto shop where you are?!?

I thought they did away with all of those. They eliminated my father's about 30 years ago.

– Eric
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
Yes! I am the teacher! We build a classic car every year and raffle it off! The purple one is the raffle one
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So "Spartan" probably refers to your school team. Narrows it down to about 12,462 US schools.
And I bet none of them make their students spend a week in the wilderness, alone, naked, and having to hunt for their own food.

My ol' man was a shop teacher and AP for over 30 years, but just after he retired they cut out all the shops and that was the end of that. I knew all the teachers, so back in the '80s and '90s I could just drive up any time I wanted, use the lift, line up my wheels, swap some tires, no stress.

Shame it's all gone now...

Looks like your guys do great work!

– Eric
 
Took it out for a drive to go get pizza. Transmission started to slip in 2nd gear...

found fluid 3/4 quart low. Drove it today with fluid level good. Doesn't appear to slip. Should I rebuild transmission anyway?
 
What is the condition of the fluid ? Brown, smelling burnt ? You will know after removing the pan.
Have you done Fluid,Filter,Band adjustment yet ? May be all that is needed.
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
you could check out what the class does. www.spartangarage.org but don't want to get kicked out of the forum.
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Wow. I'm very impressed. Looks like a great bunch of kids!

You should be proud. You're making a difference in these kids' lives.

– Eric

ps: I just posted this link in a message to a different shop teacher on a different forum, but in case you weren't aware, Mike Rowe ("Dirty Jobs") has a foundation that gives out grants to kids who want to get training in the trades.

Work Ethic Scholarships
 
MDchanic said:
Wow. I'm very impressed. Looks like a great bunch of kids!

You should be proud. You're making a difference in these kids' lives.

– Eric

ps: I just posted this link in a message to a different shop teacher on a different forum, but in case you weren't aware, Mike Rowe ("Dirty Jobs") has a foundation that gives out grants to kids who want to get training in the trades.

Work Ethic Scholarships
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I have 2 seniors that are really looking hard into opening their own shop!

They are really good kids. Best of all they are twins!

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ESMSpartanGarage said:
I have 2 seniors that are really looking hard into opening their own shop!

They are really good kids. Best of all they are twins!
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Ah, yes, the old "I'll study the first half of the semester, and you study the second half, and we'll go to the bathroom in the middle of the test and switch seats." :)

– Eric
 
ESMSpartanGarage said:
Before any fluid was added, it was a maroon red color!
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Time to get the book out and do the trans service procedure. It may have never been done since when it was new.
Automotive shop class was my favorite. It set me up with a career that lasted 50 years.
 
Factory service manual.Look up Bishko Automotive Literature
Available in paper or disc. Me I'm old school and prefer paper.
 
In my experience, old magazines are worth very little, unless they are about something momentous, like the JFK assassination or the moon landing.

If you see someone selling them for a buck a piece at a flea market, usually they've got about the same number on the table at the end of the day that they had at the beginning.
I can't read what the treatise from Cornell is about, but it could be mildly interesting, depending on your agricultural interests.

If Marguerite Murphy was the original owner of the car, they've got some (non-monetary) historical value for you and possibly a future owner, but if it's just a pile of junk a previous owner picked up and never brought into the house, then, not even that.

– Eric
 
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