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I bought them ONLY because I'd be able to: First, keep the pipes close to the body and off the ground, and; second, try to save a few bucks. When well executed, they do keep the pipes close to the body and off the ground, but that's about the only thing they have going for them compared to the...

I have them on my 72 Scamp...if I had it to do over again, I'd have bought the Doug's or TTI. Positives, they do fit with power steering, no issue there. But the gaskets suck to change and you'll need to do some fabbing to make it all go together...

Those hedman headers are no joy to change gaskets...just sayin...I have them in my 72 Scamp and while they do fit and you can cobble together some pipes between a mini starter and the T bars, if that gasket blows out, you'll need stubby wrenches and lots of patience to change them. Also, I had...

I have those same ones in my Scamp. I'll spare all of you the install comments as i wouldn't recommend them...they do work, but I won't willingly use them ever again and they're probably going to be unceremoniously disposed of when the engine comes out.

You'll find just as many opinions on which one's better between doug's or tti as you will leaves on a tree. If I could guess, either one of them would be a quality piece and subject to some massaging to fit. They won't ship them to CA? Wow--will the nonsense never stop...

here's a few pics

I run them, but to be perfectly honest, if I were to do it over again, I'd get some quality headers like tti or dougs. They fit OK with a factory dakota mini starter from the local parts store. If you want it to fit above the steering linkages (which tucks nicely), get some mandrel bent "U"...

A couple others from the engine bay...

I have them on my '72 Scamp...they were a little of a pain to get all put in, but the end result looks and seems to run decent. I bought 180* segments of 2.5" mandrel bent pipe from Columbia River Mandrel Bending and dropped them off with an X pipe and summit exhaust kit. I don't have any...

He looks full...

That would be a great deal for someone not wanting to mess with long tubes...

I bought the same headers Jerry did...my pics are about halfway down the page... http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=117019&page=7 Mine is a composite of the hedman headers, summit X pipe, summit 2.5" dual kit, and some 180* 2.5" mandrel u bend sections from Columbia River...

Nice! uploaded pics to my previous post

lol-yeah, I bet. I loves me some 2 chambered flows (to include the knockoffs), but I know a lot of folks who just can't abide... A good friend of mine has a '93 Cobra that was pretty heavily modded...408, solid roller, TFS-R heads, manual V/B pro-built C4, welded spooled 8.8, aftermarket...

I used the Summit X pipe on the stock 5.2 with the Hedman shorty headers and a 2.5" mandrel bent custom exhaust with the Summit dual exhaust kit with the turbo mufflers...I don't think it sounds like a Mustang at all. It sounds like a smooth running stock small block V8 through a generic...

Sawzall is good to have too...unless they fixed the kit, both tail pipes are too long

Wow-sad story, but badass Mustang.

:happy1: Excellent

I used basically the same setup. Summit 2.5" dual kit, Summit X pipe kit, but with Hedman tight tube headers, and some mandrel bent "U" sections cobbled together from Columbia River Mandrel bending...had to fab up the head pipes to snake around the starter and steering pieces. The head pipes...

Try PM'img memike-he has an early Valiant-and I believe he's running a slant with custom exhaust-he might be able to help you

I think Jeg's used to sell it that way, but I can't find it after a quick look. You could probably call them and find out if they still sell it without.

I've never had any issues with just headers on anything I've worked in the past. Most older vehicles usually just wind up like airwoofer said...hangers from the mufflers and maybe tailpipes, but nothing from the headers or flanges. The only time it becomes an issue is if you're exhaust is...

Probably just tuning issues...347 with an R trim Vortech should be well more than capable of the same/better times than a seasoned 302-seen similar things happen...things that make you go "hmmm"

Very true. The single turbo 4.6 4V under construction for my '84 Mustang has 1 5/8" primary tubes with a 2 1/2" collector y pipe to the turbo, and the 72-76mm (haven't decided yet) turbo. Down pipe will probably be 4" down to a dual 3" :D looking to make about 550rwhp...pretty decent...

BTW-Welcome to FABO!! There are tons of great and knowledgeable folks on here-jerry & strokerscamp being two of them

True statement-they act like bigger engines...or at the very least, greatly increased compression engines. It would be like comparing a 8:1 pedestrian engine to a 13:1 engine while under boost (dependent upon amount of boost in, of course) Maybe I'm missing something from this statement...

I'm not speaking from any experience when it comes to 600hp engines, but dual 2.5" exhaust systems with free-flowing mufflers should be adequate for 450-525 hp before you really start putting a restriction in it...425-450 was about what my blown 5.0 Mustang was pushing through 1 5/8" longtubes...

Give me a little time there Jerry...I just got off a 12 about an hour ago. It's really nothing special...just a stock 5.2 Magnum pulled out of a '98 Dakota. They replaced stock manifolds, and after I got the timing played with a little, it pulled harder in the midrange-felt smoother. I gotta...

Goo!!

That they do-and I'm glad to have mine installed and leak free. But, if the OP is as pissed off as he is about the perceived lack of workmanship on the headers pictured, he might be just as irritated about the lack of straight weld beads on the Hedmans as well. I did have a minor issue with...