1958 Dodge
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Love it. Listen to that Poly purr! Dang, look at all the fun Mopars you have there! "this thing's a mess" Yep, a hot mess! Perfect!
moparmat2000
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That thing needs a DA sander taken to it so bad, and some either black or grey primer sprayed on it. Hows the exhaust system under it? Put some duals with flowmaster 40s on it.
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Definitely needs a sanding, how this happened we'll never know, it looks terrible.
The goal is to strip it, and get it in primer, in 1 color!
Fix the minimal body issues, then shortly after, do a homegrown diy paint job in as close to the original colors as possible.
The end game is to get the trim/emblems/mirrors/etc. back on the car asap to restore it's identity.
Got some cool wheels for it too.
The exhaust, already bought it from Waldron's, who knew it was available? Not me.
We bought the new exhaust when it still had the busted windshield, where have I heard something like that before?
The goal is to strip it, and get it in primer, in 1 color!
Fix the minimal body issues, then shortly after, do a homegrown diy paint job in as close to the original colors as possible.
The end game is to get the trim/emblems/mirrors/etc. back on the car asap to restore it's identity.
Got some cool wheels for it too.
The exhaust, already bought it from Waldron's, who knew it was available? Not me.
We bought the new exhaust when it still had the busted windshield, where have I heard something like that before?
Demonic
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What color was it?
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Silver over charcoal grey.
Roof, trunk, and fins are silver, the rest is charcoal grey.
There are paint dividers near the rear side windows, and at the top of the quarter behind the fins to the top tail light.
Same as this car, same trim too.
Roof, trunk, and fins are silver, the rest is charcoal grey.
There are paint dividers near the rear side windows, and at the top of the quarter behind the fins to the top tail light.
Same as this car, same trim too.
70DartMike
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It's interesting seeing the small differences between your '58 and my '57. Mine was originally red/white but was repainted sometime in the early 80's. As far as I can tell, the red was where the blue is now, the white was the same.
This pic is when I bought it, I've now got the original wheels back on with the hard to find Lancer hubcaps.
This pic is when I bought it, I've now got the original wheels back on with the hard to find Lancer hubcaps.
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Very similar years, from the obvious, tail lights and # of headlights, to not so obvious, 57 dash vents turn, 58 are fixed.
Part of the reason finding a 58 windshield was difficult, 58-59 conv/2&4 hardtop and 57 conv only.
The 2 tone paint schemes were different, as noted already.
Both years had the super cool Lancer emblems one the fins.
Part of the reason finding a 58 windshield was difficult, 58-59 conv/2&4 hardtop and 57 conv only.
The 2 tone paint schemes were different, as noted already.
Both years had the super cool Lancer emblems one the fins.
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The plan is to dive into this car within the next few months.
Someone posted a comment on the youtube that it reminded them of a 50s nascar.
I was surprised when I realized, over time, this comment has sunk deep into my brain.
Found 2 pics today of what I believe is a 57 D-501, hardtop no less, black/silver roof no less even more.
Been thinking on doing an old old school nascar vibe.
This car is not getting a restoration or fancy paint. It is getting the rust fixed and a cheapo homemade paint job, whether that's spray gun or cans.
As close to original as possible, charcoal grey, silver roof/trunk/fins.
And either my crappy Cragar GTs, or my shiny ones pictured below, possibly with spinners.
What say you?
Someone posted a comment on the youtube that it reminded them of a 50s nascar.
I was surprised when I realized, over time, this comment has sunk deep into my brain.
Found 2 pics today of what I believe is a 57 D-501, hardtop no less, black/silver roof no less even more.
Been thinking on doing an old old school nascar vibe.
This car is not getting a restoration or fancy paint. It is getting the rust fixed and a cheapo homemade paint job, whether that's spray gun or cans.
As close to original as possible, charcoal grey, silver roof/trunk/fins.
And either my crappy Cragar GTs, or my shiny ones pictured below, possibly with spinners.
What say you?
I love your car and direction BUT please buy a $30 HR gun and find a compressor, any compressor!!!
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I completely agree, and also completely disagree.
I have spray guns and multiple compressors, and I've prepped and painted a few cars.
The painting is the easy part, prepping takes weeks/months.
The guy who took all the trim off, not the po, took a DA sander and destroyed the finish, gouging the metal, slapping bondo on where it doesn't belong, applying multiple colors of primer, scratching windows, etc.
On top of mechanicals, electrical, rust repair, some kind of interior, and everything else, it's going to take a lot to strip it and get it into 1 color of primer.
The brakes alone are not fun, dual wheel cylinders in the front, tapered axle in the rear, it's easier and safer to replace the rear with a later b-body rear and change up the fronts using later Mopar spindles/discs, $$.
The goal is to make it safe and reliable, and cosmetically, at the least, black primer with silver paint and all the trim and emblems back on it!
I keep this pic to inspire me, no where near the same colors, but same 2 tone scheme (there were a few), trim/emblems/mirrors on it, and somewhat Cragars.
Hot Rod 58 Mopar!
I hate to see people rattle can cars exterior. For obvious reasons.
Best route is either do northing and park it in a garage out of the weather, and not a pole barn with limestone gravel floors. Or best, DA it to bare metlal with 80 gri, 2-3 good coats of good epoxy primer, and seal that with urethane primer. Just what I would do.
Best route is either do northing and park it in a garage out of the weather, and not a pole barn with limestone gravel floors. Or best, DA it to bare metlal with 80 gri, 2-3 good coats of good epoxy primer, and seal that with urethane primer. Just what I would do.
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Good or bad, love it or hate it, this is getting rattle can primer/paint.
Once it gets some dignity back in the looks department, two tone color, trim, emblems, mirrors, etc., it needs everything else to make it roadworthy and safe.
It's the everything else I want to spend the time, energy, and $ on, as that will get us to our main goal of having a reliable, safe, 1958 Coronet 2-door hardtop back on the road.
Once it gets some dignity back in the looks department, two tone color, trim, emblems, mirrors, etc., it needs everything else to make it roadworthy and safe.
It's the everything else I want to spend the time, energy, and $ on, as that will get us to our main goal of having a reliable, safe, 1958 Coronet 2-door hardtop back on the road.
Dartswinger70
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I agree. I have a friend with a 68 Impala convertible...it looks ratty on the outside and I'm like" dude buy some beer Ill come over with my DA and go down 1 side and you go down the other...well smooth this thing out and coat it with a primer of your choice from Eastwood, it would look a hell of alot better..." he's like " I like it its a rat rod..."I said "that rat rod stuff gets old quick...I get tired of looking at a crappy neglected car after a while..."
Demonic
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I dig the music that went with the quarter panel!
70DartMike
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Build it exactly how you want to, don't listen to the BS about how you should have done it this way or that way. I painted my '58 Plymouth 2 door wagon outside, in the dirt, with a spray gun and left over single stage paint from my '65 Valiant (the cheapest single stage paint I could buy). Not all of us have the funds to take the car to the big shops, or to buy the expensive paint. Not to mention we don't all do show quality work. I have tried and tried to paint my own cars, and they all turn out driver quality. I'm happy with them, but it sure bugs other people for some reason. They all think if it's driver quality, it's not good enough. I thought the fun in this hobby was learning how to do things ourselves. Anyone can pay someone else, the true hot rodders do things themselves, no matter how it turns out.
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My 1964 Nova SS, I stripped this to the bare metal, spray guns, expensive primer and paint, the whole nine yards.
I recall priming and wet sanding multiple times, got it darn near perfect.
Replaced the front fenders, the rest of the car was original rust free, had it's share of dings, but original black interior with a 6 banger.
Even with the 'proper' tools, the use of a giant 2 car garage, and all the time and $ (at the time) it was a huge task.
It was exhausting, luckily a friend stepped in and sprayed the color in his clean garage, as the one I was using was a complete mess, and as stated I was running out of energy.
I went with the original color, which some loved and some hated, and although I was unsure initially, it was by far the best color.
I even bought the correct silver paint for the tail section, but never sprayed it on.
I recall priming and wet sanding multiple times, got it darn near perfect.
Replaced the front fenders, the rest of the car was original rust free, had it's share of dings, but original black interior with a 6 banger.
Even with the 'proper' tools, the use of a giant 2 car garage, and all the time and $ (at the time) it was a huge task.
It was exhausting, luckily a friend stepped in and sprayed the color in his clean garage, as the one I was using was a complete mess, and as stated I was running out of energy.
I went with the original color, which some loved and some hated, and although I was unsure initially, it was by far the best color.
I even bought the correct silver paint for the tail section, but never sprayed it on.
Years ago I had sold my shop (no compressor) and I had done all the body work and primer, blocking..on a BB 66 Bel and had it "close". I had a good friend shot the topcoat and he said " dang you had it so close, just a little more sweat and it would have been perfect!" I replied " I've done "perfect" and then I don't drive them... i did not want "perfect!" "What good is it if I never drive it!??????"
moparmat2000
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I like it. Plymouth wagon w a dodge front clip.
70DartMike
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Yeah, the Canadian Dodge's were built that way, a Plymouth body with a Dodge nose. Except mine isn't one of them, mine is actually a Plymouth body and supposed to have a Plymouth nose, you can see it in the first pictures. But I was missing most of the parts so I put a Dodge nose on the front because it's what I had.
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