KramerSwinger70
70 Dart Swinger360
ive seen the thread ffor ppl voting btewwn the 70-71 grill on darts/demons. just wanna see who thinks the 70 is better than 71-72 rear bumper on darts, or vice versa
70 or 71-72 bumper?
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slantsixdan
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'70 all the way. The mini two-per-side taillamps on '71-'73 Darts look too busy, and they don't work as well as the one-per-side '70 Dart/'71-'73 Scamp lights for, um, like, y'know, like, showing following drivers that you're about to stop. On the other hand, with the two-per-side taillamp setup you can do this -- you just have to move the reflectors and reversing lamp function elsewhere.
(So, why would you do something like that? 'Cause you're up to 28% less likely to get rear-ended if your rear turn signals are amber rather than red.)
(So, why would you do something like that? 'Cause you're up to 28% less likely to get rear-ended if your rear turn signals are amber rather than red.)
KramerSwinger70
70 Dart Swinger360
well i know im 100% 70's lamp set up. i dont really mind the other, its just the 70 looks cleaner to me. simpler, if you will
mopardude318
Well-Known Member
I like the 70 style the best!
What it came with always!
But that's just me.
Later,
Bruce B.
But that's just me.
Later,
Bruce B.
jensens ag
Well-Known Member
70 Has always been my vote ( cleaner lines ).
Burntorange70
Well-Known Member
70 for me too. Less cluttered looking.
casey70dartreed
Well-Known Member
'70 all the way Baby! Of course I'm a bit partial to the '70s, but still...Cleaner looking and more simple.
KramerSwinger70
70 Dart Swinger360
ya im a bit biasd too but cmon, way cooler look to me. why arent the 71-72 lovers chimming in?
70GT
Burnt Orange Member
Well of course I am going to pick '70 but I have had both.
Too busy??? Don't work as well??? Come on now you can't be serious. I can understand preferences, great. But that is just plain silly ,driving must be tougher for others.
slantsixdan
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That's an opinion based on appearance, which is what was asked for by the original poster in this thread. I gave mine. You don't agree? Fine.
I am completely serious. I'm an automotive lighting engineer, so I pay attention to these things. The legal regulations for brake lights permit a very large range of intensity. Brighter brake lights work better than dimmer ones. The regulations also specify a minimum lit area for the brake and tail light functions. Bigger ones work better than smaller ones. The '71-'73 Dart brake and tail lamps are right at the bare minimum size and brightness; the '70 Dart and '71-'73 Scamp lamps are both bigger and brighter. That means they work better; they do a better job of communicating the driver's presence or intent to stop or turn.
Just because you haven't ever thought about how well or poorly your brake lights do their job doesn't mean it's not a valid question.
Burntorange70
Well-Known Member
The 70 lights don't work very well either. Some times on bright days you cant even tell there on. LOL
I own both, I think both a fine. Opinions are great, as I said. And I respect what you are saying. Fine then listen to what I said. Preferences are great. And I am sure you understand that before a car can be on the road. Lighting, suspension, impact etc must meet the US Dept. of Safety and Transportation minimums as I am sure you understand as a lighting engineer. They cannot roll on to the road without USDofT certification. I am speaking from experience with Chrysler Corp. and (sorry to say) Ford Motor Company. Again please understand I respect everyones' right to opinion (I like the '70 best too) but overall one person could feel both suck. Again let's just smile about it.
slantsixdan
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Right. The point you seem not quite to understand (or care about?) is that there's a large range of performance allowed. Bare-minimum compliance is just as legal as better-than-required, but better-than-required is, well better!
Ok, fine. I agree with much of what you reply. But don't tell me about what I care and don't care about. I have simply tried to explain to you how and why these items came to be. I will also tell you that one of the groups of engineers at Chrysler put forth the idea to change that the lense from one long one to two short ones was the rule in physics relied to as the "flashlight or lampshade effect" whereby much like on a lamp if you narrow the shade diameter the visibilty index increase with proposed lighting. In other words the group felt by changing the opening to two small ones vs one long one the given "cone of intensity" would be seen better. Some agreed some did not. There were also styling engineers that wanted their input as do so many others. So please read what I am explaining is why things were done as many people had an input. But Do Not tell me about what I do and do not care about. Take it for what it is worth, don't simply try to make this opinion poll a nation debate. People enjoy things for different reasons. I have respected yours, try to respect mine and others.
I wish you the best. I am going into the garage to work on my '70 Dart.
justin hughes
Miss my car
i voted for 71-2 ,only because i like the smaller lights. for some reason the 70 makes me think of an amc matador. of course i would take either one over my 76 bumper and lights.
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