yellow rose and weedburner THANK YOU for trying to set some of the forum members right on the proper clutches for their needs. For you guys that think only 9 second cars need these kind of clutches just go watch a stock eliminator race. these cars run about the same horsepower as our street cars(300 to 500 hp) they run as fast as they do by putting slip in the clutch not by dead hooking them. I found 3 tenths in my car by taking clutch out and still experimenting for more. Dartnut when you get tired of breaking parts and want to go faster give one of us a shout.
The strange thing here is that some people are under the impression that i break a lot of parts, where did that come from?
As a matter of fact, the only drive train related parts i have ever broken was the 8 3/4 pinion bearing/crush sleeve combo in my 489 case '69 Super Bee, the oil soaked original rubber trans mount, and the motor mounts which were old anyway. I had a complete Dana out of a rolled '68 GTX that i replaced the whole rear with and had no problems with that for the next 20 years. I installed new trans mounts and engine mounts with a torque strap and had no problems from them either for the next 20 years..........
The car even had the original 23 spline 833 in it with never a bit of trouble.
I got the clutch hot one time from doing hot laps in the time only bracket races in Spokane where i did 10 runs back to back with no cooling or stopping at all in 95 degree heat. It was so hot that it felt like stepping on a sponge, i thought i fried it, even though it didn't stink like a fried clutch. After it cooled down for 20 minutes on the drive home, it felt normal again and didn't chatter at all.
When i got home, (yes, i used to drive the car to and from the track 200 miles one way) i removed the clutch for inspection and found nothing wrong other than a light glazing on the surfaces.
It also continued to work flawlessly for the next 20 years after a light clean up.
Fast forward to today on my Dart Sport project, i installed a very ''well used'' stock clutch set up in the car until i decided what i was going to do with the car and to sort out the car as it was. I did not break anything on the car, but the clutch slipped when i tried to get on it. That's what you get when you use an old stock style clutch.
My brother bought me the Centerforce dual friction set up for Christmas.
It wasn't my first choice, but i thought i would try it being free and all, but i was skeptical.
I didn't like it at first, but after the thing was broken in as per their instructions, it really works and feels well. It's the best ''feeling'' clutch i have ever driven to date, and that is in terms of engagement being positive but not ''grabby'' at all as well as good lock up when you get on it, and proper function when changing gears at all r.p.m.'s high and low.
Frankly, it works as advertised.
Now when i build my big block 4 speed Demon, i will be rethinking the set up i go with at that time, and that's why i was curious about the set ups everyone else was using, however, because you all seem to like to keep your speed secrets to yourselves, then i (and others) will need to read between the lines and figure it out ourselves ultimately.
Thanks for your help and insight.
Tom.