A833 Factory Paint Markings

[BooDuke]

Hello,

I have a 1972 Duster with a 340, 4 speed. This is not the original driveline.

I was hoping someone on here could show me or tell me what paint markings and what the three digit number that would have been painted on that transmission if it was installed in my car at the factory.

Thanks!

 

[Lance Lot Link]

The three digits represented the last three digits of the transmission part number. It was on the "Broadcast" or build sheet. The transmission line, where I worked (at Dodge) was part of a sub-assembly line or loop - not the Main vehicle line. This sub-assembly "loop" and another, "dressed" the engine and mounted the transmission before it went to the Main line.Usually all of them in a rack were the same last three numbers, if it was a common transmission. Then one rack mixed to make the quantity on the shipper. I was in Shipping and Receiving mostly and I could count the 680's (or whatever no.) in the rack, to make sure that showed on the shipping bill, before signing it as received. I would guess the numbers were 3-4 inches tall. I think the colors varied with number.

 

[Dan Brewer]

I've never kept up with that stuff real well, but here are a few examples. These are original, not someone's interpretation of what they "should" look like.

 

[Lance Lot Link]

Thanks Dan! If anyone would know about 4 speeds, it would be you.

 

[Lance Lot Link]

I can't see the stampings on the pad BUT, I'm curious if the two cases marked 872 are the same year. If so, maybe the 872's had same ratio and main shaft, bearing retainer, etc. I'm also wondering if Govier's White Books shows part numbers.

 

[Dan Brewer]

I can't see the stampings on the pad BUT, I'm curious if the two cases marked 872 are the same year. If so, maybe the 872's had same ratio and main shaft, bearing retainer, etc. I'm also wondering if Govier's White Books shows part numbers.

None of the ones I posted have a Vin number. They came out of Rod Shop years ago. All were new transmissions that were cannibalized for parts.

 

[BooDuke]

The three digits represented the last three digits of the transmission part number. It was on the "Broadcast" or build sheet. The transmission line, where I worked (at Dodge) was part of a sub-assembly line or loop - not the Main vehicle line. This sub-assembly "loop" and another, "dressed" the engine and mounted the transmission before it went to the Main line.Usually all of them in a rack were the same last three numbers, if it was a common transmission. Then one rack mixed to make the quantity on the shipper. I was in Shipping and Receiving mostly and I could count the 680's (or whatever no.) in the rack, to make sure that showed on the shipping bill, before signing it as received. I would guess the numbers were 3-4 inches tall. I think the colors varied with number.

Oh man, I bet you seen your fair share of transmissions in your day…lol

Do you remember or know where I could find the part number for my year and make of car?

 

[Lance Lot Link]

No, except for maybe the Galen Govier "White Books". I think it's likely that for the right number you would need the build sheet from the donor car. Maybe someone has the same year, make, model, input spline, gear ratio, etc. Keep in mind my guesses are based on 50+ year old memories.

 

[Murray]

Those three numbers are found on your broadcast sheet and aid the line person to select the proper one for your car. Variations include A and B bodies, standard or Hemi. My numbers were yellow and had to make my own stamp.

 

[French demon]

The transmission line, where I worked (at Dodge) was part of a sub-assembly line or loop - not the Main vehicle line.

Interesting to have a former employee of Chrysler Corporation among our members.
Did you work at Hamtramck factory?

In relation with the thread subject, my broadcast sheet say 821 for the trans (line 4 "codes"). It's an A230 3-speed floor shift gearbox behind a slant-6

 

[NixDad]

from a detail perspective it seems the orange/green marking was sprayed on, rather than brushed on, and that it was laying nose-down to get the runs in the pain off the front edge.
What is the significance of orange vs green?
Interesting the one trans was initially marked for a different number and then remarked.

 

[Lance Lot Link]

I would say that Murray made some very valid points in #9. Specifically, the painted number was Primarily for the line person. The number would likely vary as to Models A or B or others, 18 vs 23 Spline, gear ratios, and the year. Leave us not to forget an engineering change in mid-year, of even a small seal in the transmission, which could change the part number. A nearly exact transmission would have a different number. Paint color was to "Highlight" a different part. A color can be noticed without having to read it, like a number. Ever notice that distributors had different color tags? 95-100% of the marking was to make parts easier recognized to eliminate confusion at an assembly plant.

 

[Lance Lot Link]

Ink Stamped Numbers for E-Bodies
(Mostly found in Light Blue Ink)
696 = 1970 318 4 Speed
696 = 1970 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
789 = 1970 340 4 Speed (Six Pack)
675 = 1970 383 4 Speed
677 = 1970 426 4 Speed (Hemi)
677 = 1970 440 4 Speed
753 = 1971 318 4 Speed
753 = 1971 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel) early models?
757 = 1971 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel) later models?
755 = 1971 426 4 Speed (Hemi)
755 = 1971 440 4 Speed
757 = 1972 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
804 = 1973 318 4 Speed
804 = 1973 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
416 = 1974 360 4 Speed (4 Barrel

This probably won't help, but it implies that the paint color might be model (in this case E body) specific.
Credit to Cuda Cody (I think ebody.org) for these, I'll inquire if he makes A Body stencils.

 

[BooDuke]

Ink Stamped Numbers for E-Bodies
(Mostly found in Light Blue Ink)
696 = 1970 318 4 Speed
696 = 1970 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
789 = 1970 340 4 Speed (Six Pack)
675 = 1970 383 4 Speed
677 = 1970 426 4 Speed (Hemi)
677 = 1970 440 4 Speed
753 = 1971 318 4 Speed
753 = 1971 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel) early models?
757 = 1971 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel) later models?
755 = 1971 426 4 Speed (Hemi)
755 = 1971 440 4 Speed
757 = 1972 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
804 = 1973 318 4 Speed
804 = 1973 340 4 Speed (4 Barrel)
416 = 1974 360 4 Speed (4 Barrel

This probably won't help, but it implies that the paint color might be model (in this case E body) specific.
Credit to Cuda Cody (I think ebody.org) for these, I'll inquire if he makes A Body stencils.

I think I’ve seen this chart before, like you mentioned it’s for E body. I do appreciate you sharing this, it is helpful.

 

[harrisonm]

I've never kept up with that stuff real well, but here are a few examples. These are original, not someone's interpretation of what they "should" look like.

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Dan, I did not Know you were on our forum. However long it has been, welcome. When I converted my 69 340 Barracuda from an automatic to a four speed, I bought a lot of stuff from Brewers, and you were a big help when I had a few questions. Thanks.