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I'm in the middle of a rewire project on a '75 Dart and am stuck as I can't find these on the schematics

The ballast resistor has a two green and red wires coming out of the bottom plug with one going to the ignition control and the other end goes??

Is the other item a relay related to the seatbelts??

Thanks
 

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a relay related to the seatbelts??

Yup. There seems to be some argument about which years are which, but if there's a pair of yellow/ yellow/blk stripe wires in that relay connector, splice em together and forget about the relay. (The relay breaks the connection to the yellow, which is the start wire on it's way to the start relay)
 
Thanks...the old ignition wiring is gone...so I no longer need this...any ideas on the wire out of the ballast reisitor??
 
I can't see well enough in your photo Here's a simplified diagram of the 4 pin ballast setup:

Bear in mind that the notched end of the ballast is important, as it identifies one side from the other which are different

came from this site:

http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=31

In the drawing, the wire going off top right labeled "existing wire" is your IGN run or "IGN 1" wire, older cars were dark blue, yours still might be. Not shown in this simplified diagram is the brown coming from the bulkhead connector, goes to the resistor -- same terminal as goes to coil+ This is your "coil bypass" circuit, also known as "IGN 2"

Ignition_System_5pin.jpg


Some useable diagrams from the same site:


http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/1975/75DartA.jpg

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/1975/75DartB.jpg
 
I can't see well enough in your photo Here's a simplified diagram of the 4 pin ballast setup:

Bear in mind that the notched end of the ballast is important, as it identifies one side from the other which are different

came from this site:

http://www.mymopar.com/index.php?pid=31

In the drawing, the wire going off top right labeled "existing wire" is your IGN run or "IGN 1" wire, older cars were dark blue, yours still might be. Not shown in this simplified diagram is the brown coming from the bulkhead connector, goes to the resistor -- same terminal as goes to coil+ This is your "coil bypass" circuit, also known as "IGN 2"

Ignition_System_5pin.jpg


Some useable diagrams from the same site:


http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/1975/75DartA.jpg

http://www.mymopar.com/downloads/1975/75DartB.jpg
Switched over to an AAW 4 wire ignition switch..to compensate for the lack of 2 IGN terminals they have me running a wire with a diode from the S on the Starter relay over to the flat side of the ballast

The ballast part is not clear...the notched side (right side in my pic) of the connector has two wires coming out of the bottom one as in the diagram...the other doesn't appear on any schematics I have seen...icluding the wiring for the 75 dart...seems like it should go somewhere...could it have gone the third connection on the seatbelt relay?
 
Why did you change the ignition switch, you have a custom dash or something?

The diode, --if it's rated large enough--is a legit way to get around an ignition without the bypass circuit

You may be confusing different parts of the circuit. The bypass circuit should have nothing to do with the old relay. The relay simply broke the yellow "start" wire going from the ign switch--through the bulkhead--through the belt relay--to the starter relay. So it would keep the start relay from cranking the engine.

The brown bypass--in your case diode--simply goes to the coil positive. Because the factory has a wire from the coil positive to the ballast, that is where they chose to make that connection.

To recap, ORIGINALLY you have THREE separate circuits for start run, all coming from the IGN switch

traditional DARK BLUE is hot ONLY in "run" and feeds the ignition system, the regulator, the alternator field on 70/ later, and electric choke if used, and I THINK idle solenoid/ distributor retard if used

traditional YELLOW from the switch, through bulkhead, to the start relay (in your case through the belt relay) ONLY is hot in "start" and energizes the starter relay IF the neutral safety is in park/ neutral, or if the clutch is depressed on those so equipped

traditional BROWN from the switch, through bulkhead, to the + side of the coil, terminated at the ballast.

The ballast is traditionally used for "take off" points, so the wire going to the + side of the coil is also the termination for the bypass circuit, AND the dark blue "run" wire traditionally takes off from the ballast to the regulator and field.
 
The ignition switch was bad and I didn't really pay attention when I ordered the Highway 15 kit...sorry if I confused u on the bypass...I'm really just trying to ID the 2nd green/red wire coming out of the ballast...
 
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