Cluth Pedal Linkage to Z-Bar

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I'm getting ready to install the Z-Bar and linkages on my '68 Dart 340, 4 spd. The clutch pedal linkage that goes through the firewall has a short crook in it on the engine bay end. Since I don't yet have the Z-Bar in place, does that crook go toward the clutch or does it go toward the fender?

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I'm getting ready to install the Z-Bar and linkages on my '68 Dart 340, 4 spd. The clutch pedal linkage that goes through the firewall has a short crook in it on the engine bay end. Since I don't yet have the Z-Bar in place, does that crook go toward the clutch or does it go toward the fender?

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In the image above, this is the correct orientation.

When I install my Z-Bay, I preinstall both ball pivots (all greased up) and fish it up into place. I usually have the one bolt on the bell that the slot on the bracket fits into. I then but the other bolt on the bracket then the nut and washer.

Are you running headers?
 
Thanks. I thought that was right, but I wanted to make sure I didn't need to flip it before I get any further along.

I'm not going to use headers. It had headers on it when I bought the car. But looking at that cramped condition I decided to go back with stock Hi-Po manifolds. They are already installed.
 
Another quick question. The clutch adjustment link has a rubber grommet that contacts the clutch fork. Next to that (on the adjusting nut side) there is a heavy steel washer with a flat to match the flat side on the adjusting rod. That washer has a flat side and a convex side. I assume that the flat side goes against the grommet, but why is the other side of the washer convex? Am I missing something here?

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The flat side of the washer goes against the rubber insulator. The adjusting nut has a special taper and on one side that locks into the hole with a machined recess on the convex side. The convex side allows ready identification of which side faces away from the insulator.

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Don't wanna hi jack, I'm working on the same stuff right now. I need more threads to reassemble at the fork...I only replaced ball studs and bushings...now it won't go back together...

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Many of the adjuster nuts had slots in them that are collapsed onto the rod flat forming a light lock as it's pressed into the D taper of the washer.

Similar to a "flex" nut.

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Many just use a second nut as a jam nut.
 
Don't wanna hi jack, I'm working on the same stuff right now. I need more threads to reassemble at the fork...I only replaced ball studs and bushings...now it won't go back together...

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I could end up with the same situation once I get that far along. My car was apparently a conversion before I got it. The adjuster rod was lengthened with a piece of threaded dowel welded into the pivot end...rather shabby, but I guess it worked. I bought a new rod, but I haven't tried to install it yet. I may have to go back to the POS I took out.
 
on my dart and duster, i removed the rubber spacer and installed a rocker ball from 350 chev also i use a second nut to lock the clutch rod nut, makes it easier to adjust, just food for thought
 
on my dart and duster, i removed the rubber spacer and installed a rocker ball from 350 chev also i use a second nut to lock the clutch rod nut, makes it easier to adjust, just food for thought
I did (with the washer and nut) similar way back in the 70's with my 70 440-6 car. In fact I drove most of the way from Carlsbad to NAS Miramar one night after the rod broke, about 30 miles. That car ate at least 3 of those as I recall. i also broke a 3-4 shift fork one Friday afternoon at the start of a 3 day weekend, maybe labor day, and spent the entire weekend putting around not far from Miramar, in ...............nothing higher than 2nd gear.
 
Chrysler produced a metal swivel to replace the washer/insulator combination. These were used in truck applications and others. The swivel has a D-shaped hole to fit the rod and the machined recess for the adjusting nut to lock. Part number is 2401740. I am using one that I pulled out of a Dodge pickup years ago in my Duster, and I also added a jam nut as added insurance against the adjustment nut backing off.

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(Borrowed swivel images from AMS Obsolete)

FYI...
 
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This is the best way to go on your car. I use one on my Demon and it is great.
You can get it on E-Bay on this guys page. RICKS-MOPARS. It is like $30. for it.
Ted
 
as far as i have ever known.... the convex side of the washer goes towards the rubber insulator.
the flat side of the washer to the lock nut
that way there is some flex as the clutch fork moves back i.e the threaded clutch rod stays in the middle of the eye of the clutch fork during its full motion.

If there is reduced flex caused by the washer having its curved side facing the lock nut and the flat side providing a solid and total support of the rubber insulator the threaded rod tends to push towards the outside of the eye in the clutch fork, and this in turn by way of reaction to this, tries to push the opposite Eye end off the stud on the z bar.
Basically if the weird chrysler specific clip and the nylon disks are all chewed on your car this could be why.

on my car with the convex washer the wrong way i loose clips with it round to what i think is the right way I don't.

i was lead to believe this was correct years ago by a bloke who basically said why would they tool up and pay for a curved face to a washer and then not use it by facing it away from the action

i am happy to be wrong as my experience is just with australian stuff
it uses a similar set up apart from the threaded road is the next thread size up, has no D section down one side and the set-up uses two half height nuts to lock the adjustment

other than that the washer is the same in all respects apart from centre bore hole is round and a little bigger, and the rubber insulator is identical
 
I have always put the convex towards the rubber, I want to contain the rubber, not push it apart. The nut to me is a self locker, they never seem to move unless I move it.
 
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