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Dog attacks
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harrisonm
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That dog is thinking, "If I wasn't so tired. I'd eat that rabbit!".
Speaking of dog attacks, let me share something as a public service announcement. I am NOT advocating any harm towards dogs. I love dogs. But if you are ever attacked by a larger dog, this could save your life. I learned this at USAF special survival school training. If a dog attacks you, stand your ground, face the dog, lean forward and stick an arm out with a fist. The dog will almost always attack the outthrust hand first. When the dog opens its mouth to bite your hand, shove your hand/arm down its throat as far as you can. You may receive some injuries, but far less than if you do nothing. Again, I am posting this as a method to save you or another if attacked by a larger dog that may seriously harm you.
Steve welder
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I was attacked by a very large German Shepard. He broke free from a backyard next to a church I was doing cement work at.
I saw the dog coming and grabbed a large push broom. That dog was really vicious, the dog tried to back me up and attack. I fought him with that broom, pushing that room in his face prevented him (male) but didn't stop him from trying to get to me
I was much younger and a lot stronger back than and although I was nervous I wasn't afraid, I didnt have time to think about being afraid. The more aggressive I got towards that animal the more I kept him away from me. It was him or me and it wasnt going to be me.
All this time I was looking for a weapon to kill that dog.
What was seconds seemed like forever until the owner called him off.
Years back two pits broke out of their pens and attacked a elderly man. A WW2 vet who saw combat
The dogs ripped him up bad. My guy from my neighbourhood I know well served in V.N and saw action.
He worked in the hospital as a Xray tech, he saw the old man when they brought him in
He told me the wounds on this elders vet were as horrific as what he saw in Viet Nam
The old guy died as a result of that attack
The dog owner was arrested and prosecuted, I believe did some jail time as well
My cousin lives across the country, she was on the phone with me recently as she walked her little dog. She went past some white trash POS and their large dog attacked her dog
All I heard was barking screaming and my cousin yelling words I never heard her use before
She is as sweet as they come until a line is crossed
Mind you I'm 2000 mikes away
Im in a panic and was going to call 911 and see if I can get transferred to her 911 to call LEO's
Luckily it ended with no injuries
I told her, you want to walk in rural areas, you live in a right to carry. Protect yourself. Stay away from that area
I saw the dog coming and grabbed a large push broom. That dog was really vicious, the dog tried to back me up and attack. I fought him with that broom, pushing that room in his face prevented him (male) but didn't stop him from trying to get to me
I was much younger and a lot stronger back than and although I was nervous I wasn't afraid, I didnt have time to think about being afraid. The more aggressive I got towards that animal the more I kept him away from me. It was him or me and it wasnt going to be me.
All this time I was looking for a weapon to kill that dog.
What was seconds seemed like forever until the owner called him off.
Years back two pits broke out of their pens and attacked a elderly man. A WW2 vet who saw combat
The dogs ripped him up bad. My guy from my neighbourhood I know well served in V.N and saw action.
He worked in the hospital as a Xray tech, he saw the old man when they brought him in
He told me the wounds on this elders vet were as horrific as what he saw in Viet Nam
The old guy died as a result of that attack
The dog owner was arrested and prosecuted, I believe did some jail time as well
My cousin lives across the country, she was on the phone with me recently as she walked her little dog. She went past some white trash POS and their large dog attacked her dog
All I heard was barking screaming and my cousin yelling words I never heard her use before
She is as sweet as they come until a line is crossed
Mind you I'm 2000 mikes away
Im in a panic and was going to call 911 and see if I can get transferred to her 911 to call LEO's
Luckily it ended with no injuries
I told her, you want to walk in rural areas, you live in a right to carry. Protect yourself. Stay away from that area
Jeff Seighman
aka jeffnmo
I always carry, first it's going to be the critter, second, possibly the owner.
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Cuda416
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2020 U.S. Dog Bite Fatalities - DogsBite.org
https://www.avma.org/sites/default/files/resources/javma_000915_fatalattacks.pdf
The American kennel Society also lists Pitt Bulls as the most dangerous of breeds at being the subject of 72% of all fatal dog attacks. Second only to the Rott at 10%. Can't find the link but they even suggest it might not be a bad idea to let the breed fade away.
now, back on topic for me.
We have two cats, one older and one young. The older one is a kermudgeon and is constantly harassed by his younger pal. They "play fight" and the younger "stalks" everything. I'm of the mindset that as studies have suggested if cat was big enough, they'd kill you just as soon as look at you. They are "self domesticated" meaning they tolerate us because it's convenient for them to do so. lol.
The younger one does something we've never seen before. He tries to mimic bird chirps and it's different with each thing he's stalking.. from our chickens to barn swallows. Darndest thing.
LOL, geese are very aggressive, swans can be too. Best to just give them a little space especially if they have a brood of goslings.
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
that is an interesting point (that and the picture above your post)
if you get big wild dogs you got wolves?
they hunt and kill in packs
if you get big wild cats you got mountain lions
they are solitary hunters
i couldnt find any real numbers on how they compare, both in numbers and fatal attacks, but i would rather tangle with a wolf then a mountain lion
Cuda Hunter
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In all honesty, cat meat is truly more like a combination of ham and chicken. Not quite as pink as the ham, but not quite as white as the chicken.
Some of the best meat you can eat. Clean and tasty.
Dog is more like a red meat and tastes more like a red meat when prepared. Not as good as beef or buffalo. I've yet to try Wolf. I assume wolf would be the same as dog.
Many years ago I used to go to a friends house for coffee before we started our day. They had a Siamese cat that sat atop of a tall cabinet in the kitchen next to the door going to the dining/living rooms. You had to pay attention coming back into the kitchen as he would jump off on your head and shoulders and start using you for a pin cushion, lol.
Ironracer
Gearhead
I remember that.
We had a cat that "clicked" when it was following/stalking.
My research indicated it was rudimentary echo location.
Fascinating.
I've been paying attention lately to one of our cats whisker "array".
Hopefully I'll be able to get a picture from a good angle and in good lighting/background.
Array is absolutely the appropriate word, as it looks (and functions, albeit in a rudimentary way) like an antenna array on a WWII night fighter plane.
The ears also function much like a radar antenna receiver, including the fine hair in the area directly in front of them.
The ability to aim them is also very cool.
I was wondering if anyone was gonna bring up mountain lion attacks.
They do happen.
Imagine a cat the size of a rottweiler.
I would actually not count myself out vs the rott, but a cougar/panther/Mt Lion- only luck or the cat's whim.
My plan for any dog attack (and a similar technique has worked when I was a child) without a weapon, if it comes down to them or me-
Offer the left forearm, top surface to the back of the mouth and keep pressure, then with the right hand, try to pick up, preferably by the genitals or rear leg, and then slam down on any available protruding surface, either on the head or spine if possible.
With a same size cat, you couldn't get that close.
My research indicated it was rudimentary echo location.
Fascinating.
I've been paying attention lately to one of our cats whisker "array".
Hopefully I'll be able to get a picture from a good angle and in good lighting/background.
Array is absolutely the appropriate word, as it looks (and functions, albeit in a rudimentary way) like an antenna array on a WWII night fighter plane.
The ears also function much like a radar antenna receiver, including the fine hair in the area directly in front of them.
The ability to aim them is also very cool.
I was wondering if anyone was gonna bring up mountain lion attacks.
They do happen.
Imagine a cat the size of a rottweiler.
I would actually not count myself out vs the rott, but a cougar/panther/Mt Lion- only luck or the cat's whim.
My plan for any dog attack (and a similar technique has worked when I was a child) without a weapon, if it comes down to them or me-
Offer the left forearm, top surface to the back of the mouth and keep pressure, then with the right hand, try to pick up, preferably by the genitals or rear leg, and then slam down on any available protruding surface, either on the head or spine if possible.
With a same size cat, you couldn't get that close.
Cuda416
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We have had three 50/50 wolf breeds in my family growing up. Very interesting animals. Had to put onw down after it attacked and killed another pet in the neighborhood. My brother had three huskies, sled dogs. Treated amazingly well. Went home one night to what looked like a blood bath. The leader (pack) got a hold of a pet from next door... it was bad. Put all three down.
You might want to look up the current wolf population (google Minnesota wolf hunt) and re-think your statement
, lol. A 200 lb wolf is no joke. Couple of years ago on CO, a guy survived a "juvenile" mountain lion attack it was reported to be 75-80 lbs... he strangled it but it shredded him up pretty bad.
I thought that cat attack ended with a rock blow to the head.
The way canines attack is drastically different than felines.
Canines get in close to use their mouth.
This always gives you a chance to poke the eyes, punch the nose, twist the genitals, bite the throat if you have to, etc.
Cats basically have 4-5 knives at the end of their limbs, and the rear ones are almost motorized.
The way canines attack is drastically different than felines.
Canines get in close to use their mouth.
This always gives you a chance to poke the eyes, punch the nose, twist the genitals, bite the throat if you have to, etc.
Cats basically have 4-5 knives at the end of their limbs, and the rear ones are almost motorized.
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
from what i understand from mountain lions, because they are solitary hunters, changes are you will not see the first bite coming, and it will be on your neck or skull, this alone is why i think id stand a better chance against a wolf then a puma
You might want to look up the current wolf population (google Minnesota wolf hunt) and re-think your statement
i was thinking more one on one, i have no desire of talking on a pack of wolfs
(really, i dont think i want to tangle with a solitary one either, but if i had to pick one, id pick the wolf over the cat)
on a side note, have you ever heard of a movie called frozen?
(no, not that one)
it came out a few years before the one everyone thinks of when they hear "frozen"
it was somewhat interesting but i was quite startled when i heard of these kids were watching it
Cuda Hunter
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If a cougar wants a person, they pretty much have you. Most attacks are from severely hungry animals, typically younger as they are still learning how to hunt.
Keep in mind that a 120 lb. lion has been video'd dragging a 500 lb elk over a mile up a mountain and then pulling the elk into a tree.
That's a 120 lb female. Males get up to 180ish.
Keep in mind that a 120 lb. lion has been video'd dragging a 500 lb elk over a mile up a mountain and then pulling the elk into a tree.
That's a 120 lb female. Males get up to 180ish.
Cuda Hunter
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As I understand it, when I spent time hunting in Montana the locals all warned me of the wolves. They said, don't worry about the grizzlies. And no one ever sees cats as they really don't want anything to do with humans. They told me that if I see a wolf and it is close enough, shoot it. The packs of wolves will eat me. Single wolves will typically bring other wolves back.
Now the liberals in Colorado have decided that it is a good idea to bring the wolf back in the state. I'm all for conservation but wolves are not what we need to bring back to this state. We are already having problems with them. I read a clip about some 300 sheep that have been slaughtered by wolves in Colorado already.
If you see them, shoot them.
Now the liberals in Colorado have decided that it is a good idea to bring the wolf back in the state. I'm all for conservation but wolves are not what we need to bring back to this state. We are already having problems with them. I read a clip about some 300 sheep that have been slaughtered by wolves in Colorado already.
If you see them, shoot them.
Cuda416
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Still might want to look at a 200lb wolf ... the wolf in the zoo is a joke. Then again, a 200lb cat would probably eat the 200 lb wolf for a snack LOL.
If nothing else, some of those big wolves are absolutely beautiful animals.
Cuda416
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Like any population in which almost dies out, the strongest ones survived and are reminiscent of wolves that were around thousands of years ago. The paw prints I've seen in fresh snow hunting back back home in MN are massive. i have big hands and those prints were bigger than my hands with my fingers tucked under.
You're absolutely correct with one on one vs a pack. Get surrounded and you're done. My nephew was face to face with one and it didn't seem to know what to do. Almost as if it'd had never gotten close to a human so it was surprisingly "easy" to convince it to go away. Believe it or not, my nephew "got big" and "barked" at it. He had no idea what else to do. I'm sure it was not a hungry one and probably figured the crazy think yelling at him wasn't worth the risk.
Slowswinger
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Please keep a watch for grizzlies as they have ate people, recently.
Cuda Hunter
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I hear they are getting worse. I've been warned now in Western Montana and Idaho. The elk hunter shoots his elk, sending out a dinner bell and then the grizzly comes and eats the fella and the elk.
Just like Colorado's last Grizzly, Ole Mose.
He would listen for the dinner bell, then mose on up to the hunter and eat him. There is a book on ole mose. He had a ridiculous amount of bullets in him when he was finally killed.
diymirage
HP@idle > hondaHP@redline
i cant remember where i read it, but ive come across stories like that, where they found 9 mm slugs in the roof of the bears mouth when they finally killed him
looked like someone shot him in defense and the bullet simply didnt penetrate the skull
do you guys remember this idiot?
he leaped a fence and entered a bear enclosure in the zoo
i would have let the bear eat him
60jerry
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We too have had many many cats over the past 35 years. In our experience, if the cat is treated respectfully and with kindness there will be no aggression at all. We've never experienced any aggression at all. "Not once" as RRR said.I would not want to deal with a cat that I have seriously pissed off. I expect that the pissed off cat would leave the scene and would attack only if cornered. The attack would be just aggressive enough for it to escape. I'm old and not very big but I could be a butthead if I encounter someone mistreating a cat or a dog. Really, I feel that any human who mistreats any animal or human to be not worthy of any respect-period.
Calicos are straight up evil. They will Amber Turd your bed just because, or lurk behind the couch and attack guests. Every time I see one I stay far away.
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