Drawbacks?

[bozvaliant]

Hi, thinking of buying a 5.7 or 6.4 with the TR6060 attached. I know that the stock Challenger has the starter on the passenger side. Couldn't I buy a Lakewood bell housing to move the starter to the driver's side? Also, will the shifter be in a bad location? Thanks

 

[DionR]

Here is the bell that relocates the starter:

Lakewood LK7400K Lakewood Bellhousing Kit - Mopar - Gen III Hemi to TR-6060

This Lakewood cast aluminum bellhousing connects Mopar Gen III Hemi engines to the OE Mopar version TR-6060 Transmission. Designed as a compact, lightweight, and inexpensive option for transmission swaps not needing SFI certification, the LK7400K attaches in a factory-like manner and is...

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Here is a solution that would allow for the stock bell to be used (post #36):

TR6060 and TB suspension? Any info on the starter interference?

Do you know if anyone is running those mounts on an A-body at all? I'm just thinking that there's going to be very little room for fans and pulleys up front. On a B/E the radiator clearance is a whole different ball game. I don't. Valid concern. Just went out and took some quick measurements...

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I have a part number for a shifter that I thought would work with a TR6060, but I don't know now. There should be one though.

Don't forget about the output flange adapter and custom driveshaft as there isn't a slip yoke on the TR6060.

Also, there is no speedometer output so you will need to come up with a secondary means for showing a road speed.

 

[DionR]

Here is the shifter I had planned to use.

LS T-56 98-2002 F-body 2004-06 GTO 6-speed Short throw shifter and Magnum F 6-speed

Shorten shift throw by 30% and experiment with multiple shifter positions with this T-56 and Magnum 6-speed White Lightning short throw shifter. Shop now.

americanpowertrain.com

You should probably reach out to AP to verify it works before ordering it though.

 

[72bluNblu]

Not to mention completely reworking the entire tunnel and crossmember to make any of it fit. It’s totally doable but I would definitely consider that a drawback

 

[DionR]

Not to mention completely reworking the entire tunnel and crossmember to make any of it fit. It’s totally doable but I would definitely consider that a drawback

Good point. I was looking at it from a T56 vs. TR6060 drawbacks viewpoint, didn't even think about the entire process of fitting either one.

 

[DionR]

@Sublime one put a TR6060 in his Demon. He might have some input on the drawbacks.

Note that he used a coil over conversion, so he didn't have to deal with the idler crashing with the starter.

Here is his build thread:

6.1 Hemi into 72 Demon March 2018

I have just begun the project of ripping out a perfectly good 360 and putting in a gen 3 with a manual 6 speed in my newly acquired 72 Demon. Here is a summary thus far. I am going to utilize a Cleveland Power pallet 6.1 Hemi from a 2010 SRT Challenger equipped with manual tranny, A HDK front...

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[SlantedDart]

Before you get aftermarket bell housing measure EVERYTHING. I did what you are saying. Switching starter from pass to driver. Originally my car had a 904 with custom headers made. I wanted to keep that orientation. ( I have QuickTime bell) offers a gen3 hemi to tkx ( I know you have t56) check your input shaft length! The gen 3 specific driver side starter quicktime bell is too tall.. I had to make a custom input shaft bearing. Reference the driver and passenger side starter bell depths cross reference it with input shaft length. Whatever option you do measure everything.
My opinion cast bell housings are.. eh. I know they work and have better tolerances than older ones but I like my feet..

 

[DionR]

Before you get aftermarket bell housing measure EVERYTHING. I did what you are saying. Switching starter from pass to driver. Originally my car had a 904 with custom headers made. I wanted to keep that orientation. ( I have QuickTime bell) offers a gen3 hemi to tkx ( I know you have t56) check your input shaft length! The gen 3 specific driver side starter quicktime bell is too tall.. I had to make a custom input shaft bearing. Reference the driver and passenger side starter bell depths cross reference it with input shaft length. Whatever option you do measure everything.
My opinion cast bell housings are.. eh. I know they work and have better tolerances than older ones but I like my feet..

The TKX is an aftermarket trans and comes in a Ford or GM flavor. Sounds like you had a bell for the Ford version but had a GM style TKX. Yikes.

He is talking about an OEM TR6060 which is going to be different than any of the TKX's that are available and there is only one bellhousing available as far as I have seen.

Unfortunately, being that it's the only bellhousing option for a Mopar TR6060 that can do a DS starter, it is cast aluminum or nothing. There is a scatter proof QT one for the TR6060, but it is PS starter only and basically just replaces the OEM cast bell.