Yall did everything. I just answered a few questions. Yes, it does sound nice. Sorta like a factory muscle car.
Father, Son, and Grand Father project. 1963 Valiant
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Yall did everything. I just answered a few questions. Yes, it does sound nice. Sorta like a factory muscle car.
Pull the initial timing up. It needs more timing. Where is the initial timing now?
prorac1
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In the above picture it was set at 15 degrees.
Today I bumped it up to 20 degrees initial and moved from a 25 to a 31 squirter.
It’s much much happier now. Lol
prorac1
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It literally boils the hides just by blipping the throttle. Very impressed by our little peanut.
I bet it is! As long as it doesn't spark knock, it's all good. My high school auto shop teacher always said put as much initial in as it can stand. He was right, too.
Videos or it didn't happen. lol
muh huh. That's what they all say. lol
Prorac2
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I can confirm she roasts them now. She definitely likes the changes.
Cool. As long as yall are happy with it. That's a light car for a hot 318. I'd be willing to bet it's an honest 275 "OR SO" horsepower. 230 was stock. The torque is what that cam helps most, though.
prorac1
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We had another GREAT day today.
Jason learned how to make his own plug wires. I did the first one and he did the rest…with absolute perfection!!!
I’m so proud of him!!!
He’s really coming into his own.
We also bent up our fuel line. It turned out great as well.
Jason learned how to make his own plug wires. I did the first one and he did the rest…with absolute perfection!!!
I’m so proud of him!!!
He’s really coming into his own.
We also bent up our fuel line. It turned out great as well.
prorac1
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We’re doing some rear axle work on our 8.8.
The spider gears and trac loc clutches are pretty loose and sloppy so we’re replacing them.
We’ve been learning a lot about rear axles.
While waiting for parts for the aforementioned job, we replaced the wheel bearings and seals.
Me and grandpa just gave Jason some simple instructions and he did the whole job himself.
He did great. Very proud.
The spider gears and trac loc clutches are pretty loose and sloppy so we’re replacing them.
We’ve been learning a lot about rear axles.
While waiting for parts for the aforementioned job, we replaced the wheel bearings and seals.
Me and grandpa just gave Jason some simple instructions and he did the whole job himself.
He did great. Very proud.
He's a beast I tell you! He'll be better than you and the old man in no time. Everybody will be bringin their stuff to him for repairs and the super tune. Just you wait!
prorac1
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He’s definitely a natural.
I love watching him work. He’s very methodical and relaxed while he works.
I realized tonight, while watching him work, how much he reminds me of myself at that age.
I miss that time. I take things to seriously now. Everything fights me……because I approach it as a fight.
This project is reminding me of why I started doing this. And why I fell in love with the automobile.
It ain't the project doin that, dummy. It's your boy.
prorac1
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Our clutches and spider gears came in the mail. Clutches are soaking.
prorac1
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Tomorrow after school we are rebuilding the carrier. This should make it nice and tight. Than we can move onto wrapping wiring and tweaking the brake system.
prorac1
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Today was a raging success!!!!
Jason (@Prorac2 ) did most of it himself with some guidance from dad and grandpa.
We learned all about rear axle carriers.
We set our clutch clearances up, which in turn set our axle end play up.
Ended up at .010 on one side and .012 on the other. Nice and tight, but not tight enough to cause problems on turns.
We also finished installing our LED dash lights. They look great!
Albeit slightly scary and Christine ish. Lol
Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason.
Jason (@Prorac2 ) did most of it himself with some guidance from dad and grandpa.
We learned all about rear axle carriers.
We set our clutch clearances up, which in turn set our axle end play up.
Ended up at .010 on one side and .012 on the other. Nice and tight, but not tight enough to cause problems on turns.
We also finished installing our LED dash lights. They look great!
Albeit slightly scary and Christine ish. Lol
Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason.
txstang84
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This thing has come a long way since I last read-phenomenal work gents
prorac1
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Thank you very much. Next on the list, we have a tranny line that we have to seal up. No big deal. And I want to readjust the shifter linkage. It’s close, but needs to be tweaked.
Then we are onto wrapping wires.
After that, it’s interior work. Carpet, door panels, and miscellaneous trim pieces.
We are very close now.
prorac1
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It seems we get one thing buttoned up and two more pop up. Lol.
We sealed up the leaking transmission line. So that’s good to go.
But……than we discovered our drivers side valve cover gasket was leaking. I believe the leak stems from removing the bolts and installing the plug wire looms a couple weeks ago. I don’t think we had them tight enough.
The plan is to pull the valve cover, check/ maybe replace the gasket and clean both mating surfaces. I also want to make a better mounting stud to mount the valve cover and loom holder. I don’t believe it was getting very good thread engagement.
Next we adjusted the shift linkage for the B&M Pro Ratchet shifter. We also added a washer under the cotter pin in the shift arm to take out some slop.
But then……(do you see a pattern here, lol) when I started up the car, (outside temp was below zero) I heard a slight valvetrain rattle and it took a few seconds to build oil pressure.
We are running a 90 degree oil filter adapter, which because of transmission and dipstick tube in the way, puts the filter slightly up at an angle. I believe the oil is draining out of the filter.
I did some cross referencing, and found some shorter filters that I believe will mount directly to the block and allow us to eliminate the 90° oil filter adapter. And not allow the filter to drain when the engine is not running.
We also had some minor voltage issues. Nothing major, everything is working great, but it’s charging at 15 V. So I need to track down whether it’s a regulator or a volt of draw somewhere, or something else.
Nothing major, just more hurdles to jump on our way to the finish line. LOL. Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason
We sealed up the leaking transmission line. So that’s good to go.
But……than we discovered our drivers side valve cover gasket was leaking. I believe the leak stems from removing the bolts and installing the plug wire looms a couple weeks ago. I don’t think we had them tight enough.
The plan is to pull the valve cover, check/ maybe replace the gasket and clean both mating surfaces. I also want to make a better mounting stud to mount the valve cover and loom holder. I don’t believe it was getting very good thread engagement.
Next we adjusted the shift linkage for the B&M Pro Ratchet shifter. We also added a washer under the cotter pin in the shift arm to take out some slop.
But then……(do you see a pattern here, lol) when I started up the car, (outside temp was below zero) I heard a slight valvetrain rattle and it took a few seconds to build oil pressure.
We are running a 90 degree oil filter adapter, which because of transmission and dipstick tube in the way, puts the filter slightly up at an angle. I believe the oil is draining out of the filter.
I did some cross referencing, and found some shorter filters that I believe will mount directly to the block and allow us to eliminate the 90° oil filter adapter. And not allow the filter to drain when the engine is not running.
We also had some minor voltage issues. Nothing major, everything is working great, but it’s charging at 15 V. So I need to track down whether it’s a regulator or a volt of draw somewhere, or something else.
Nothing major, just more hurdles to jump on our way to the finish line. LOL. Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason
txstang84
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I chased some voltage drop issues in mine a few times. The first two were faulty voltage regulators, after that was a bad ground (which I severely doubt you have based on how it’s fastened) and the last time I finally tracked it down to a 3V loss somewhere between the steering column and the bulkhead connector.
I didn’t feel like dorking around with it so I installed a relay straight off the starter relay to run into the ignition circuit bypassing the column wiring...totally not what I’d recommend anyone else do, but it’s my car and I was comfortable with that particular fix as it kept the voltage in check and I have zero problems with it after it sat for 5 years.
I didn’t feel like dorking around with it so I installed a relay straight off the starter relay to run into the ignition circuit bypassing the column wiring...totally not what I’d recommend anyone else do, but it’s my car and I was comfortable with that particular fix as it kept the voltage in check and I have zero problems with it after it sat for 5 years.
prorac1
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Dads multi meter was jumping all over, so I’m going to check it with mine tomorrow.
We bypassed the amp meter and bulkhead completely and added two dedicated feeds into the passenger compartment.
The alternator is wired to the starter relay, which is fed by a feed wire from the battery. All 8 guage wires I believe.
We’re going to test the VR, and I will get the battery load tested, (it’s the optima out of my valiant).
I’m also going to do a voltage drop test through out the system, because a 1-1.5 voltage drop would cause this also.
The good news is that our wiring upgrades and headlight relays worked great. We have little to no voltage variation when the rpms change. It puts out great at idle.
I’ll keep ya updated. Thanks. Eric
txstang84
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Ah yes, headlight relays were another upgrade I made as well-one of the best low cost mods for the existing electrical system.
I did pretty much the same thing you guys did elsewhere with the bypassed ammeter (I caught a whiff and sight of smoke from behind my dash one night while driving) and the alternator charge wire.
One day I'll completely replace the wire harness and integrate those elements, but other irons in the fire...
I did pretty much the same thing you guys did elsewhere with the bypassed ammeter (I caught a whiff and sight of smoke from behind my dash one night while driving) and the alternator charge wire.
One day I'll completely replace the wire harness and integrate those elements, but other irons in the fire...
prorac1
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We removed the 90 degree oil filter adapter, and replaced it with a shorty oil filter to clear the exhaust.
Sealed up well. Built oil pressure within 2 seconds after setting in the cold barn for 3 days. All good.
We pulled the valve cover, and cleaned both surfaces, and made some longer studs to mount the valve cover and wire looms.
It sealed up well.
Than we started tracing our over charging issue.
We had some voltage loss between the battery and the field wire on the alternator.
Part of it was a jankey shorted out, wiggley ignition switch. Replacing that helped a lot.
The battery load tested well, but was very low on charge. So we brought it home and trickle charged it for a couple hours.
It now charges around 14.20. So I think we’re ok.
Over all it was a very productive day.
Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason.
Sealed up well. Built oil pressure within 2 seconds after setting in the cold barn for 3 days. All good.
We pulled the valve cover, and cleaned both surfaces, and made some longer studs to mount the valve cover and wire looms.
It sealed up well.
Than we started tracing our over charging issue.
We had some voltage loss between the battery and the field wire on the alternator.
Part of it was a jankey shorted out, wiggley ignition switch. Replacing that helped a lot.
The battery load tested well, but was very low on charge. So we brought it home and trickle charged it for a couple hours.
It now charges around 14.20. So I think we’re ok.
Over all it was a very productive day.
Thanks for reading. Eric and Jason.
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