Forgive me my Mopar brothers. I have sinned

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i rebuilt a 5.0 a few years back (2014) for an F150 and wouldn't ya know the one exhaust valve was burnt...
 
Well, worst case scenario confirmed. This thing had a bad miss on one cylinder when i was loading it up. Was hoping for just a fouled or bad plug wire.
But, no such luck. Did a compression test on it this morning, 110-120 on all cylinders, except for #8, which was 20. So I pulled the drivers side valve cover and cranked it over, the rockers are rockin' so I know the cam isn't wiped, guessing a burnt valve? Cant confirm that till I pull the head off, and then the truck isn't mobile, and i'll have to commit to doing an engine build, or swap or something.
I think I'll just leave it alone for now and weigh my options, work on body and suspension work in the mean time.
Put a 390 crank into it then u will have a 10-1 compression engine. 390 cid. U will also need a 390 flywheel. Kim
 
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Well, worst case scenario confirmed. This thing had a bad miss on one cylinder when i was loading it up. Was hoping for just a fouled or bad plug wire.
But, no such luck. Did a compression test on it this morning, 110-120 on all cylinders, except for #8, which was 20. So I pulled the drivers side valve cover and cranked it over, the rockers are rockin' so I know the cam isn't wiped, guessing a burnt valve? Cant confirm that till I pull the head off, and then the truck isn't mobile, and i'll have to commit to doing an engine build, or swap or something.
I think I'll just leave it alone for now and weigh my options, work on body and suspension work in the mean time.
Remove the rocker shaft on the Driver's side and put air to #8. I bet you get air coming out the exhaust pipe indicating a burned exhaust valve.
 
Remove the rocker shaft on the Driver's side and put air to #8. I bet you get air coming out the exhaust pipe indicating a burned exhaust valve.

Thanks for the idea, I never would have thought of that. Actually would be good if it was an exhaust valve, maybe i could just get away with having the heads rebuilt for now. I'll try to give that a try tomorrow.
 
Thanks for the idea, I never would have thought of that. Actually would be good if it was an exhaust valve, maybe i could just get away with having the heads rebuilt for now. I'll try to give that a try tomorrow.
That's what I did with Gladys. She had a dead skip when Kitty and I went to look at her. I drove her and I looked at Kitty and said "it's got a dead skip". Remarkably, it still ran well. We got back to the guy's house and I raised the hood. muh huh. 7 yellow wires and one grey one. Somebody was chasin the skip. So I looked a tthe guy and I said "how you answer this one question will depend on whether I buy or not". I asked him "Is it a hole in a piston or burned valve?" He shifted around for a couple seconds and said "burned valve". I said "ok, since you were honest, I want the truck." I gave him 100 less than his asking price and we drive it about 60 miles back home. I did a compression test and #5 failed. I put air in it and out the pipe it came.

I put a set of reman heads on it from Allied Cylinder head and have been driving her ever since. That's been about eight years ago and she runs really good. What someone did in this case was rebuild the short block and put the heads back on it. It had a very fresh short block. .030 over with very fresh cross hatch.

If it has a burned valve (very likely) I would rebuild the heads on it and let her rip. I can give you some tips if you want to PM me on those FE heads. They are made a bit different than some and a couple of old school tips come in handy.
 
The longest owned vehicle I have, 32yrs, is my 68 F-350 dually- 390 -4 gear.
Can`t bare to part with it, even being a total POS but still runs.
It was my first welding rig.:(
 
The FEs seem to be rough on valve seats, the exhaust in particular. The 352 I just did was a 80k mile engine, but it had crazy valve recession on the exhaust, 8 new hardened seats, no more problems!
 
The FEs seem to be rough on valve seats, the exhaust in particular. The 352 I just did was a 80k mile engine, but it had crazy valve recession on the exhaust, 8 new hardened seats, no more problems!
What do you use? Tungsten Carbide?
 
My '75 wrecker has an FE in it, not even sure which one, lol! Like Rusty said, "452" on frt of block, but..
I had a 390 w/a busted rod given to Me(long before I got the wrecker), looked OK otherwise, crank & block had no real damage. Couldn't give it away, even to a Guy w/a short-bed version of the OP's era, who had a 360 in it runnin' high 13's...
Ended up keepin' the heads, valvetrain, covers & dizzy...gave the rest to My Bud who did a bunch of scrappin'....
 
Do not despair Ford lovers, Mopar stuff does fit your ford. Heads been v-j'ed to death, in goes the Mopar P4876580 valve, at 2.150, 3/8, 5.4065 oal. 352 lovers, stuff in your used 340 hp pistons with a 40 bore on the ford and a 9 thou hone on the ford pin bushing, piston weight is less than 10g diff., skirt cleares the counter weights. Here's their version of that 3 carb thing. Also here's the factory mark found on a 428 crank, all 428 cranks I've done have this, the yellow paint.
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@MileHighDart something to consider, it's very popular to swap in a whole front clip from a Panther Chassis... Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Town Car.... You get modern suspension, modern rack & pinion steering, a fuel injected 4.6 Modular engine, Overdrive trans.... The frame width, track width are nearly perfect... Pretty easy swap....

They built the Panther till 2012, tons of them out there pretty cheap...
 
Negatory Ghostrider. The FE (Ford Edsel) line had the 332, 352, 360, 361, 390, 391, 406, 427 and 428. There was also the MEL offshoot of the FE family that consisted of the 383, 410, 430 and 462. They were FE engines too, but in the higher end Mercurys, Edsels and Lincolns (MEL)
Isnt there a 410? Idk.
If you dont have a 390 or bigger...its a dog.

Did they fix the I beam by 69 or was it 70?
The twin I beam suspension sucked throughout the 60's, the 64 n earlier straight axle was better than the early twin I beam.
Then theres all the diff block n heads... fun fun steel crank vs cast. I played in ford FE land once... crap shoot..get a book.
 
Wow, long thread for a ford.....

I do like that body style.

There's a shiny green "traditional" sling style tow truck around here that I LOVE.
It reminds me of the one from Mad Max/Road Warrior.

The place that painted my Satellite has two of that body style in their lot now. IIRC I posted that pic here.

Didn't gm also have a 360/366 big block for truck only use back then?
Pretty sure I've driven one.
 
Isnt there a 410? Idk.
If you dont have a 390 or bigger...its a dog.

Did they fix the I beam by 69 or was it 70?
The twin I beam suspension sucked throughout the 60's, the 64 n earlier straight axle was better than the early twin I beam.
Then theres all the diff block n heads... fun fun steel crank vs cast. I played in ford FE land once... crap shoot..get a book.
Yes sir. I listed it. It's in the MEL (Mercury Edsel Lincoln) Family. Remember the super cool Continentals with the rear suicide doors? Those cars had FE family engines, but they were slightly different in displacement and some details. They had different intake and exhaust manifolds and such, so they had their own family (MEL). Similar to how the 440 motorhome and industrial engines were. "Get a book", yes and pray to GOD that **** is right, cause it's probably not. LOL
 
Wow, long thread for a ford.....

I do like that body style.

There's a shiny green "traditional" sling style tow truck around here that I LOVE.
It reminds me of the one from Mad Max/Road Warrior.

The place that painted my Satellite has two of that body style in their lot now. IIRC I posted that pic here.

Didn't gm also have a 360/366 big block for truck only use back then?
Pretty sure I've driven one.
That's because even dedicated Mopar guys know awesome coolness when they see it. lol
 
Do not despair Ford lovers, Mopar stuff does fit your ford. Heads been v-j'ed to death, in goes the Mopar P4876580 valve, at 2.150, 3/8, 5.4065 oal. 352 lovers, stuff in your used 340 hp pistons with a 40 bore on the ford and a 9 thou hone on the ford pin bushing, piston weight is less than 10g diff., skirt cleares the counter weights. Here's their version of that 3 carb thing. Also here's the factory mark found on a 428 crank, all 428 cranks I've done have this, the yellow paint.
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Do I see CJ or GT heads with extra exhaust mannyfold holes? Coolness. Something as Big and HEAVY as they are that can produce power, you just gotta have some respect for. The 406 Tri Power that debuted in 1962 generated 405HP, near bout 1HP per cube. That was pretty dang good for 62.
 
The FEs seem to be rough on valve seats, the exhaust in particular. The 352 I just did was a 80k mile engine, but it had crazy valve recession on the exhaust, 8 new hardened seats, no more problems!

The one I did had a lead Lifter valley pan. Never seen on of those....

JW
 
that 5.0 I did I bought a new valve and hand lapped it in.. worked, but the seat wasn't jacked up. it was kind of strange kind of lucky at the same time...I test them with light oil like naphtha I level the head up pour it in see how long it takes to seep. I know this sounds like "Uncle Tony Baloney" but it works...
 
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Yes sir. I listed it. It's in the MEL (Mercury Edsel Lincoln) Family. Remember the super cool Continentals with the rear suicide doors? Those cars had FE family engines, but they were slightly different in displacement and some details. They had different intake and exhaust manifolds and such, so they had their own family (MEL). Similar to how the 440 motorhome and industrial engines were. "Get a book", yes and pray to GOD that **** is right, cause it's probably not. LOL
63 last yr of suicide doors,iirr
462cid Lincoln , we have a '64 2 door at my grandmothers house. Dark green
 
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