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PistolGrip

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I have a friend who has a B-Body MOPAR, specifically a 1963 Plymouth Belvedere 2 door sedan, 318 Poly engine 727 push button transmission and an 8 3/4" rear end with a (I think) 3.23 741 Sure Grip. It's really a neat car that is BEGGING to be a Max Wedge some day, but......right now he's having some rear end problems that are going to require some work AND probably some parts. I have a 1966 A Body & when I went to my manual I discovered the rear end assembly is entirely different on these 1963 models, starting with no end play adjustment. Does ANYONE have any pictures, diagrams, specifications, trouble shooting information...on this 1963 B-Body rear end? I KNOW this isn't an A-Body problem, but I'm not a member of the B-Body group, so I thought I'd give it a shot here. Anyone????
 
Picture of the rear end? Is it an 8-3/4? If it is, it probably has tapered axle tubes.
 
pauly said:
Picture of the rear end? Is it an 8-3/4? If it is, it probably has tapered axle tubes.
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Sorry, I'm not by the car now, but yes, it is an 8 3/4" rear end & they are tapered axles with
keyways and castle nuts - and no adjusters - totally different assembly than 'normal' - unique to 1963 (maybe 1964) and older - maybe even back to 1957.
 
Agreed. Best bet is find a newer B body assembly and swap it out. I think the center section is the same, depending on axle spline count.
 
pauly said:
Agreed. Best bet is find a newer B body assembly and swap it out. I think the center section is the same, depending on axle spline count.
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I know switching out is an option, but we'd REALLY like to see some pictures & do some research on what he has now before giving up on using what he has. Haven't found ANYTHING!
 
oldkimmer said:
Down load a factory service manual from my mopar. Trucks and C body’s had the same till 1964. Kim
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I haven't been to my mopar before. They had a lot of service manuals, but not a 1963 Plymouth. I found a 1958 or '59. They're supposed to be the same, so I'll follow through with that. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
 
The older 8 3/4 used shims to adjust axle play. Be aware of their placement when u take it apart. Other wise it's the same as later ones. The newer center sections should work. I can't remember a splines difference when I had my 62 wedge decades ago. Cheers.
 
inertia said:
The older 8 3/4 used shims to adjust axle play. Be aware of their placement when u take it apart. Other wise it's the same as later ones. The newer center sections should work. I can't remember a splines difference when I had my 62 wedge decades ago. Cheers.
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Thanks, we're finding this out as we go along, but where to get shims or what we should be looking for (we don't know what a previous owner may have done). That's where a good manual helps. I like to read directions whenever possible. I've learned that the hard way. :)
 
As with a lotta stuff, - if needed, the shims you'll likely have to make, using shim stock or a beer can, lol.
 
Pulling the axles is fun. Research and get yourself a puller to get the drums off. Buddy’s 62 had, another buddy’s 59 had.i got my puller off the snap-on truck.
 
Tooljunkie said:
Pulling the axles is fun. Research and get yourself a puller to get the drums off. Buddy’s 62 had, another buddy’s 59 had.i got my puller off the snap-on truck.
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There are only about 2 pullers ever made to pull those, Proto, OTC, maybe the dealer stuff, and then "all the rest." They have to be big and strong.

tapered axle hub puller - Google Search

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You tighten it up, "tap" on the ends and "tap" on the end of the screw
 
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I you check out the guys that are into these pre 65 b bodies, you will find that ditching that rear is foremost on their list.
 
67Dart273 said:
There are only about 2 pullers ever made to pull those, Proto, OTC, maybe the dealer stuff, and then "all the rest." They have to be big and strong.

tapered axle hub puller - Google Search

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You tighten it up, "tap" on the ends and "tap" on the end of the screw
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Yea! I got hit in the chest with one of those, someone over tightened the nut on the axle and we just kept hitting the thing with a BFH turning and turning I'm sure there was a ton of force on it and it popped and I got hit with the puller and drum, luckily my hand was there and it only smashed my finger and knocked the wind out of me, A couple of stitches in my finger and some very sore ribs. I'm sure it could have been worse so be careful and put the nut on a ways so it wont fly off when it breaks loose. I always learn the hard way, it sticks better.
 
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